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Reply to "Goin' To The Chapel: The Lesbian, Gay & T/S Marriage Topic"

Maybe this is too naked-assed obvious, especially to say on these boards, but, this social turmoil is not because of a fear about what will happen to the institution of marriage, it is a fear about gays and lesbians. And that point, as plain as it may be to most here, needs to be yelled out very loudly.

You do not hear this said plainly at all by any of the voices of the official media. If and when the whole 'gay marriage' turmoil is resolved socially and legally (but really it is almost totally being played out by the media as it variously manages the publics' view of the circumstances, -the assorted judges, mayors and variety of civil authorities in their various rulings and opinions are not the forces that influence or change the publics' views) it seems to me nothing about this situation will resolve the underlying conservative fear of gays and lesbians.

In every article or broadcast done about this situation the real subject is the negative dialogical space of conservative fear. It is as if the media is humoring the fear by falsely portraying the subject of their reports as the rabid euphamism of (the fight over) 'gay marriage' which really is a false issue altogether (and plenty of the media reports tacitly conclude this, especially the editorial reports).

Conservative forces never had a chance in stopping Stonewall, or any of the other now, thankfully, more common manifestations of gay and lesbian cultural and social presences, from nightlife establishments to community centers to simple everyday public displays of affection between same sex partners. Just as conservative forces have no prospects whatsoever in preventing same sex partners from proclaiming and ritually demarcating their unions in some form of official, bureaucratically sanctioned way.

It is a mark of how hysterical, pernicious, nasty, and vindictive conservative morality, as it is currently promoted and institutionally insinuated, has become that in the face of every other form of open acceptance gays and lesbians have won in the last forty or fifty years, that the continued, neo-regressive conservative fear of same sex anything now gets such a high profile, front-burner position in our social discourse.

And forget the not uncommonly mentioned polls cited in a lot of the media reports stating how a majority of people are against same sex marriages. Polls are a statistical police science founded out of the very fear authorities point toward large social formations that can not be adequately controlled in the physical sense.

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. Anything else and you are not really an American.
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