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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

April (Guest) ·
Myself I don't care for labels since they suggest a digital (e.g. binary!) world. Humans are so analog (continuous and varying). "I would really like to know if you feel we could FOSTER GENUINE SUPPORT for ANY PERSON has had been made to feel different or ashamed or scared about who they are in terms of gender. " After reading the whipping post in the tea room targeted towards Gloria Wholesome I have my doubts. In fact I have received the most support from Gloria! She has been an advocate of...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

sweetie ·
I love it! I love it! I find this all so very fascinating. I loved April's post, especially her views on "gender expression". And on some weird level Bobby's need to assert his manhood in this room was just as valid. I have heard Bobby speak briefly about his time on hormones, and find it mind boggling that he always percieved himself as POSITIVELY male. I guess I can only speak from my experience. And thinking back when I felt my first pangs of womanhood, I certainly would not have...
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Re: Fashion, Sweetie

Glamnerd ·
I'm out here in PA (near New Hope) with Sammy and Miss Bond . and we have attacked the local Target store, I got the Sprouce beach towels, beachballs and my favorite .... the boogie board....also wiped out were the skirts, dress, hats, bikini, etc. by Mr and Mrs Bond. I also indulged in a Stark folding chair sweetie......Target didn't know what hit them.
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

Stacy Amber ·
" I guess for me, my freedom to live as I please was a higher priority than it is for some. " That may be it in a nutshell, Miss Understood. Sometimes the desire may be growing and latent and its a matter of timing. I remember what a quiet, shy kid I was until in 8th grade, the boy behind me in class would not leave me alone. He was always whispering funny things to me and singing songs to me really low until he finally won me over and in a big way. Suddenly I was transformed, which really...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

daddy ·
I can't easily jump in (being the world's ugliest gender-variant "thing" to come down the pike as most of you know) but this discussion is so smart & riviting. I've been around the drag world for years. It started at G.G. Barnum's in Times Square where I was a go go dancer. One day I got caught in the G.G. dressing room. The "girls" asked Miss Peter- The Sweetie of her day, "Can we keep him, Can we keep him Miss Peter?" They did. Never a tranny or a chaser I always appreciated "the...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

Rose Royalle ·
Well, my mind expanding Sweetie, this drop the bomb topic has been running around my already busy brain for days. I'm very happy to see people expressing themselves and shedding their experiences. (Stacy, welcome home honey, I've often wondered how you were doing.) A Transgendered Woman Is A Transgendered Woman Is A Transgendered Woman! A transgendered woman is not a man! A transgendered woman is not a woman! (Repeat chorus) Bobby Miller and I are friends. I love him as a human being and as...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

Stacy Amber ·
I have been reading everyones posts with such enthusiasm and interest. I would like to share a few things with several of you: April: I know something of the feelings that you are going through about family and transitioning. I remember how much angst and fear that caused me. Once I knew there was no turning back for me any longer, I actually remember having thoughts of wishing my family dead so that I would be able to live. As insane as that sounds (and is) that's a good example of the...
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Re: Fashion, Sweetie

Mister X ·
Reading the various category descriptions, I realized that I should have posted the Yohji thing in the Versailles Room area instead! My apologies. Julian
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Re: Party Monster - Michael Alig

Zazoo and Satori ·
This subject is always so polarizing, and we've tried to steer clear of it ... While all of it was going on, we were being good little students and getting our education at Ohio University in the middle of nowhere. Zazoo did go to Limelight and Club USA in '92 (or ˜93) and had a blast. The Little Professor bookstore on campus carried "Project X" but that was the extent of our knowledge of the scene in NYC. When Chi Chi posted Michael Wilkinson's note above, we debated for over a week. When...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

Sheril Veniger ·
For so many years I was closeted to the point that I was losing my sanity, I was virtually scared to death to go out in drag. The first time I went out it was to Click and Drag at Fun, and I was a mess, I was so scared I couldn't even hold my drink and it spilled on the floor breaking the glass, but by the end of the evening I was having a wonderful time and the barrier I had for so long battled to overcome was over. After that Click and Drag closed. The second time I went out to the...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

daddy ·
I too had no idea that you were so JC when I saw you at the bar at The Slipper Room. You seemed so comfortable in your skin. I just thought you were very fierce and why don't I know this girl? I guess I am just a big ol' tranny chaser.
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Re: The Cockettes

Glamnerd ·
Everyone must see this movie, I've already posted about this in the Versailles room. It is totally major and will show where many groups were born,including The Radical Faeries. Please go!!
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

sweetie ·
The last couple of posts unfortunately totallly veered away and lost this topic. Let's try to make sure our verbal masturbations are relevant to the topic at hand. Anyone care to comment, or pick the ball up where we left off. Hoping for insight and feedback about inner prejudice in the "tg" ie.... transsexual, transvestite, drag, cross dressing, gender variant world. We have had soooo much REAL sharing, it would be a shame to let this little room die. Read from page one and comment. Such...
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Re: East Side, West Side, All Around The Town

Luxury Lex ·
Two persepctives on what's going on in Times Square and the sex market. First, from today's NY Daily News: And a more lenghty analysis from the NY Times:
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Re: The Club Creatures - Zazoo & Satori

TonyaKnudsen ·
I have enjoyed for some time (as a lurker!) "This week's brit gossip" in the New and News topic in the The Versailles Room Forum ... In fact I keep a PopIt! going for this topic, just to read "This week's brit gossip". To learn you are from Ohio makes this even more interesting ... Do you know Drew Cary or Mimi? ;-) I've just been poking around ... http://www.theclubcreatures.com/ You two are just too creative ... Last night, I printed your topic to read at the bar. This is not as hopeless...
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Re: BURNING MAN

goblin73 ·
i'm in portland now, but this seemed like the more appropo board to post in. my people are up to some SHIT!! huge art projects, domes, vehicles... oh my damn!! the hottest by far is kelly and his bus - he's adding two flame throwers to the back and putting an underlit stripper stage (complete with a pole!) on the hood. he's major! but straight. he asked us if we wanted to kick in for these projects. i laughed as i thought about the few dollars i have left and said, "well, if you want a...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?

Lady Sierra (Guest) ·
As you can see I am shy. I just decided to post to one of the best topics I have read on an electronic forum in a long time because I am demure Wow ladies and everyone, it is too bad more people can't read this thread. To understand, to disagree, to relate and finally to enable them to think outside the "little" box that we all have in our heads. The one that we so neatly try to place the people we encounter in. Even as a gg I never fit neatly in a box with a label and I never will. I don't...
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Re: RIP, VIP

Rose Royalle ·
Hi, everyone, I have at last found a place suitable for a party for us all to get together and honor Michaelian. Here are the details: Monday, August 19 - that's a week from today The Slipper Room 167 Stanton Street at Orchard (lower east side - 1 block south and east of 1st Ave. and Houston) 7:30 til whenever Cash bar We'll start with about an hour of sharing memories, stories - anyone who wants to contribute is welcome to do so. Then we'll turn up the music and just mingle. Please let me...
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Re: East Side, West Side, All Around The Town

B ·
History Wrestles Commerce in Meatpacking District By DENNY LEE (NYT, 8/11/02) The three-year drive to confer landmark status on the meatpacking district is taking on a new urgency. What began as a low-key investigation of warehouses and blood-soaked Belgian blocks has quickened this summer into a race that pits preservationists against developers. "We're hitting a critical juncture," said Andrew Berman, executive director of the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation. "Several...
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Re: Jo-Jo Baby - DollMaker

jo-jo baby ·
i didn't mean too.i just have all this room in my gallery now that the show is up....i just want to make more...to fil up space. i have been painting jo-jo's closet and sanding the floors....hehe. i want a skeleton...for the closet.
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Re: David Wojnarowicz - Artist

TonyaKnudsen ·
Daddy-D: I promise not to dreg up emotions too often. And someday, you and Chi Chi will have to let me write a bit about your early exploits. This is something I look forward to. You know, one of the first conversations I had with Rose, maybe about four years ago, was about whether or not I could come in to Mother early one night just to interview her. She seemed to me to have stories untold of amazing interest (however since there was no place to publish such tales) I did not pursue the...
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Re: RIP, VIP

Rose Royalle ·
Tara died suddenly last Monday from complications brought on by an untreated chronic bronchial condition. Versaille Room vets may remember Tara, one of a group of very pretty, quite passable Pan Asian/ Philipine young ladies who were regular customers @Mother. The girls were always followed by droves of chasers who would compete for the privilege of buying their drinks. They remained loyal to "Jackie 60" and even followed the legendary party downtown to Don Hill's. Among her coterie of...
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Re: The Club Creatures - Zazoo & Satori

TonyaKnudsen ·
AND BRING jOjO !!! actually just a funny semi-waking dream I had this morning. --actually caused, most likely, from watching the performance tape from the womb show, which I had not forced myself to sit through yet. After much pulling my hair, groaning, talking very loudly and repetitively to myself and pacing about the living room, I got through it. But what I realized is that YOU TWO twats were the ones to go into shock and hustle with tons of bustle off the floor when my audio came on!
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Re: RIP, VIP

dreambot ·
Next to Quentin Crisp, one of my favorite New Yorkers was an uptown girl whom I belatedly learned passed on. I was visitng the NYTimes obit section for the first time in many months and discovered Daphne Helman, had passed away this summer very close to if not on Warhol's birthday.) She was listed as a name on the bottom of the page but the link wasn't working. Later that day I was on the Motherboards in the Versailles section and was reminded of the RIP VIP which I've also avoided far too...
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Re: My own private East Village

daddy ·
I love "Ciao for Now". I sometimes brunch there with Nancy Isla. Rules! And Rodhammer Boy- Keep it clean! There are ladies in this room. Oh wait... it's just Betty, Anna Nicole, Miss Understood & my wife. Nevermind
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Re: RIP, VIP

Rose Royalle ·
With his sometimes crackpot notions and radiant, ecstatic, vision of the holiness of being queer, Harry Hay refused to play the model homosexual EVEN IN THE GLOW of its conservatism, America "” which was formed via revolution, after all has always taken a certain pride in its radicals. Even so, America prefers to remember its history-makers in sanitized versions with none of the messy, often embarrassing flaws that are usually inscribed on the souls who take it upon themselves to change the...
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ

Chi Chi ·
Hi all, this was such devastating news. Got a call from Rose Wood earlier who told us that donations of clothes/supplies for Kelly can also be left at The Chelsea Hotel c/o Room 724. Donations will be collected from there and brought out by cab as they accumulate. Please do not leave cash in that manner (bring it instead to the above club locations) but clothing, costumes, etc. She has absolutely nothing, so almost anything would help. Kelly is on the small side I would think no bigger than...
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ

Matthew Mohr ·
the Bombshellgirls show on Sun. nite @ The Slipper Room is now a benefit for Miss Kelly Web!!Please come see some of burlesques best and help out in Kelly's time of need.I spoke with Sammy Jo of Star Tarrtarr ( sorry for the mispell) and there might be a connection between the two parties ( discount list for attendees of Bombshell , etc.) to entice a generous audience to two of her fav venues.
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ

The Lady Ace ·
hello everyone! I just wanted to add to the love & support for Kelly. She is truly one of the most positive, loving & generous people i know. This is a tragic thing- how quickly things can change in one day. The Bombshell! party is tonight at the Slipper Room...admission is whatever you want to donate to Kelly- the money is going to help her get herself back on her feet...and there will be an amazing show! The theme is "Vanity", so be your most vain self you possibly can be. Let's...
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ

Chi Chi ·
Just wanted to post the Bombshell TIME for those of you who don't usually crawl out of your nests till midnight. The doors open at 8, shows begin at 9 at The Slipper Room, corner Orchard and Stanton. And welcome to the Motherboards Lady Ace! See you tonight..
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ

Shema Nails ·
Hi Ms Webb. I am so sorry to hear of the fire. It is really something very difficult to deal with during these times. The mother board family is great. Prayers are answered. I will make a copy of the video I shot at CBGB's aof you dancing with thosde sexy Exotic Long Fingernails and those Toenails. I was siting right at the stage dressed in Black see me at my web site: http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/shemanails I will make you a copy for you to keep. What ever made you wear long toenails, I...
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ

KevinJohn ·
Hi Everyone, I had too much caffeine yesterday and posted images I'm sure nobody wants to download. So I removed them. From the looks of things Miss Webb will be well taken care of thanks to the great people here on the board... [This message was edited by KevinJohn on 12-06-02 at 12:08 PM.]
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Re: Straight To Hell (Sex Stories)

ViperBoy ·
I guess almost everything revolves around sex, and well, money too, but that's another forum entry all together. I leisurely mouse-clicked into a Maui gay chat room tonight on the World Wide Web, barefoot, topless, holding my java in my hand, wearing nothing more than a pair of tight faded Levi's with a paint stain on the crotch and a rip in the left knee. I'm not one for online chat programs really. ICQ and Yahoo Messenger sit tranquil upon my desktop collecting Internet dust and most of my...
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Re: Straight To Hell (Sex Stories)

ViperBoy ·
Damn boys, with their unwashed hair and shabby, tattered faded Levi's, sauntering around the concrete jungle reminiscent of a slimy serpent slithering in between the cracks of right of wrong, black from white. Blood stained lips sucking the last haul from the butt end of a borrowed cigarette, flipping the nicotine stick with a snap of the wrist into the chaotic heart of a hectic intersection, legs spread eagle on a gravel sprinkled sidewalk, drumming a filthy boot on the ground to the sound...
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Re: The Viper Room

daddy ·
I don't know Viper... I like Johnny Depp as much as the next guy but I thought The Viper Room was hideous. What did you like about it? Did I miss something?
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Re: The Viper Room

Anna Nicole ·
Viper room would have been FAB if it would have been anywhere other than LA.... Sorry, but i would go on a march against LA... and its not cos (as people always say) 'oh you just didn't go to the right places' - you're talking to a girl who was 'in residence' at the Belushi death bungalow for godsake..an LA still sucked... but Johnny Depp... now theres another tale.(namedrop namedrop)..can i tell you about the time his fist was in my mouth... oh ok..save it for a 'private topic'! (a very old...
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Re: The Viper Room

Zazoo and Satori ·
Club Cherry was fun when we went back in 2000. When we went back in 2001, it was really tame. Apparently we missed a rockin queer punk rock night at The Gauntlet. We didn't even try The Viper Room because of it's current rep. XXXOOO Satori
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Re: Join us at Hooker's Ball 4 New Year's Eve

Say Who ·
Hey everyone, I'm new to this board, for more on me, visit my HOMEPAGE. Just wanted to say thank you for having this New Year's event sounds like fun so I'm definitely there Hope to see each and every one of you Luv, BB [This message was edited by Chi Chi on 12-27-02 at 11:06 PM.] [This message was edited by Bridgette Bad on 12-28-02 at 12:12 PM.]
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Re: GG barnum room

aurore ·
one would enter through the long skinny bar all lined up with the beautiful girls and their long legs checking out the new action coming in the door. So exciting! Never were the ladies at a t-bar so alluring. Then to the disco back room and then turn the corner to the main trapeze disco. it was the site of the original, and new wave remake of the Peppermint Lounge. There was always something ready willing and able to happen.
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Re: 57 Varieties ( Club 57 Remembered)

daddy ·
That was the best Club 57! I did one of my very first "performance art pieces" there. I was in art school (School of Visual Arts) at the time. I hooked up two big BORROWED tv sets to all of this electronic equipment that Laurie Anderson loaned me (God bless her). It was all choreographed to a disco drum beat with this drummer guy that I met in the park. He now has gone on to drum with hundreds of DJs in hundreds of clubs but believe me, that was the first time. He really didn't understand my...
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Re: Beams To Bobby Part 2

Carrie Lauf (Guest) ·
There is an empty room. Photographs, magnetic poetry, and a jar of pickles. Kermit is in jail, he notices. I smell your Captains hat, and I wonder, "Where is Bobby Miller?" I love you
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Re: Join us at Hooker's Ball 4 New Year's Eve

B. Domination ·
They say whatever you are doing at the second a New Year begins is what you'll be doing for the rest of that year. This is the first year I honestly hope that's true. Everything was perfect; who could wish for much more (besides more of our friends in the same room)? So, if legend holds, I'll be toasting and laughing with friends and strangers, kissing and dancing with the one I love, listening to the best music for my ears, and looking forward to much, much more! Thank you Chi Chi and...
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Re: Join us at Hooker's Ball 4 New Year's Eve

FlowRyder ·
So we were all there and what a great time we had! But, it is all so logical and we all know when you put so many great people in one room you are bound to have a fuckin' great time. So know, my friends, that thanks to technology and creative people (Chich and Johnny) we can send our love cyber-style. I love you guys, had an awesome time. AND, I was a good boy (Jess was just looking too fuckin' hot I couldn't leave her alone).
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Re: I'm from normal parents (The Pyramid Club Topic)

LAD ·
I first met Miss U at the Pyramid Club (she won't remember). I transpired to the BANK on Houston. Loved the decor and back room where you could always find a "real' vampire! Where hav the real vampires gone? And it's not Second Avenue!
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Re: Beams To Bobby Part 2

bobby ·
Hey hons, Just got back from having a MRI ( a surreal ride in a tube that x-rays your brain) in Hyannis. Every day seems to make me a little clearer and stronger but I am still feeling this meningitis. Wierd and strange my dreams are full of friends and angels and I wake up in the middle of my sleep convinced that there are aliens in the room. Funny thing/ When they took me to the hospital in full straight jacket ( yum) and admitted me to the hospital, It was recored that I was an acute...
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Re: Straight To Hell (Sex Stories)

Guest ·
Man, I just have to share this really fun experience I had last weekend. I went to Tigard to help a friend with an errand. She stayed there and I decided (before hand) to "meet up" with a couple from there. We had met in a Feet Chat room and they had kept in touch a few times via e-mail. They are an older D/s couple with the the wife as DOMME and the hubby, bill, as sub. They liked our cyber(s) and had sent me pics as well. We agreed to meeting and talking. They are members of Janus(?) and...
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Re: Beams To Bobby Part 2

bobby ·
Oh Daddy I wish I could hear your entire dream. I am tired today and full of what the hebrews call turis. A feeling of aggitation and anger but then I come to the boards and it all passes. Thank you everyone for your wonderful posts. They mean so much to me. It is snowing here and so beautiful. I am blessed with the love of a wonderful man who cares for me and looks after my every need. I miss you all and hope to see you in the spring. I am planning to do a show at The Slipper Room then and...
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Re: Miss Understood's Thailand 2003!

Miss Understood ·
I've been there before. It looks like some crazy Mary westerner did that site for them. It's not really an accurate description. It's just a nice place. It's very lush. There's a courtyard bar that's just so tropical and nice. Al; the nookie happens in the cubicals. The Thai have this modesty thing. Like in the locker room they'll put on the towel before they pull their pants down. Also, if they drop the towel to get in the jacuzi (sp?), they'll cover their weenies while they step in. Last...
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Re: Miss Understood's Thailand 2003!

Miss Understood ·
Not to disappoint anyone, but I'm not really a chicken hawk. Lately I've actually been into daddy types. BUT I met this 21 year old from Viet Nam (that's how they write it in Asia) online. Now, not only am I going to his town (Saigon) at the end of my trip, but he's also visiting Thailand while I'm here. We're basically traveling in circles will only meet for 2 days. He's going to Pattaya where those big drag shows happen. I made plans to go with him to the shows. Now, should I plan on 1...
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Re: Miss Understood's Thailand 2003!

Miss Understood ·
I keep seeing little funny things that I always forget to tell anyone. I was in this crazy crowded market today. Bangok has so many of these and they all have a different feel... but they're all narrow and mobbed. Then people walk through pushing food carts! But you know, the locals are just so used to it. Thay never bug out. In the US we expect everything to be comfortable all of the time. My friend has a very small shop on 2nd Ave, and customers will actually tell him to turn the air up or...
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