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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
I love it! I love it! I find this all so very fascinating. I loved April's post, especially her views on "gender expression". And on some weird level Bobby's need to assert his manhood in this room was just as valid. I have heard Bobby speak briefly about his time on hormones, and find it mind boggling that he always percieved himself as POSITIVELY male. I guess I can only speak from my experience. And thinking back when I felt my first pangs of womanhood, I certainly would not have...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
As a genetic New York Jewish girl, I want to say that I love this community. I've only recently discovered it--thank heaven you all exist!!! I've been to Cheez Whiz a couple of times and think it is the coolest, most welcoming spot in NYC. Thank you Sweetie! I met my girlfriend on 'altmatch' and she is the most beautiful, sweetiest tgirl in the world (I could go on and on, but it gets very mushy). The bad thing is that she lives in Chicago and I live here, but hopefully we can live together...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
All I can do is nod in agreement and say "so well stated." I think I know what you mean, Sweetie, about not having a focused point, but I think that there is one there somewhere. This is a difficult topic to really tie together for some reason. I obviously have a lot of mixed feelings about it. Perhaps it's a flaw of character on my part, but I still haven't much sympathy or patience for anyone who is scared to death to show their colors in this world. Maybe that's where support is sorely...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
I can't easily jump in (being the world's ugliest gender-variant "thing" to come down the pike as most of you know) but this discussion is so smart & riviting. I've been around the drag world for years. It started at G.G. Barnum's in Times Square where I was a go go dancer. One day I got caught in the G.G. dressing room. The "girls" asked Miss Peter- The Sweetie of her day, "Can we keep him, Can we keep him Miss Peter?" They did. Never a tranny or a chaser I always appreciated "the...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
I have been out in the world as Lisa for about two years now but only a few times have I stepped into daylight. I know that the courage to do this will have to come from myself just like the courage it will take for the trans communite to be a real part of the world will have to come from the trans persons themselves. I am still alittle scared to get involved with a TG support group becuase that just puts me one step closer to my truth and that can be scarry, but I need that support and I...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
The recent diologue in this topic has absolutely blown my mind. The selfless sharing of tg experience and history (good or bad) is exactly what ALL OF US of all gender variants need to read and understand. How can we let go of some of our prejudice disposition if we don't "know" the person we canott identify with. Stacy I found your comments and sharing so on the money. I hope you do know that some lurking, frightend, alienated person, trapped in their own skin might read your post and take...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
I have been reading everyones posts with such enthusiasm and interest. I would like to share a few things with several of you: April: I know something of the feelings that you are going through about family and transitioning. I remember how much angst and fear that caused me. Once I knew there was no turning back for me any longer, I actually remember having thoughts of wishing my family dead so that I would be able to live. As insane as that sounds (and is) that's a good example of the...
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Re: Party Monster - Michael Alig
I must say its a shame their sorry lives will be the focus of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars of film, talent and energy. There seems so much more worth showing the world than troubled souls trying so desperately to have a good time. Maybe its what people need to see, I dont know. It certainly has fascination - in a 'how low can you go' kind of way. One thing's for sure, its definately a New York story. I wonder if this film will reveal the disconnection, the desperation...
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Re: Party Monster - Michael Alig
This subject is always so polarizing, and we've tried to steer clear of it ... While all of it was going on, we were being good little students and getting our education at Ohio University in the middle of nowhere. Zazoo did go to Limelight and Club USA in '92 (or ˜93) and had a blast. The Little Professor bookstore on campus carried "Project X" but that was the extent of our knowledge of the scene in NYC. When Chi Chi posted Michael Wilkinson's note above, we debated for over a week. When...
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Re: Party Monster - Michael Alig
World of Wonder $3 million Macaulay Culkin $1 million everything else $1 million ---------------------------- $5 million "Sorry, I guess there is no budget for costumes. Can you do it for free? It will be good for you." By any chance did the conversation go anything like that?
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Re: Party Monster - Michael Alig
No Daddy, it would be something like this: World Of Wonder: $.5 million + % of profit Macauley: $.5 million Everything else: $1 million The corporate octopus involved: $3 million + % of profit of film, 100% on lunchpails & other film- related merchandise. And you would think that after $5 million came in that WOW would begin to go into percentage and see some more money, right? Wrong. The "break-even point" on a film like this could be as much as $10 million, after the corporate entity...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
For so many years I was closeted to the point that I was losing my sanity, I was virtually scared to death to go out in drag. The first time I went out it was to Click and Drag at Fun, and I was a mess, I was so scared I couldn't even hold my drink and it spilled on the floor breaking the glass, but by the end of the evening I was having a wonderful time and the barrier I had for so long battled to overcome was over. After that Click and Drag closed. The second time I went out to the...
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Re: Sex With Taxi Drivers part 2
I remember slurping on backwash it was after last call My dress was a couture pattern of stains from a variety of spilled alcohols.. I clinched me cellphone but hadn't received a single number to call. Then I woke up on the sidewalk, missing one of my brand new 8th street heels Searched for it in my thriftstore purse as I stepped in, what felt like "oatmeal?" THAT was just the beginning of the "Kinky Pakistani Cabdriver Ordeal". The night time city street was swirly as hundreds of "off-duty"...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
The last couple of posts unfortunately totallly veered away and lost this topic. Let's try to make sure our verbal masturbations are relevant to the topic at hand. Anyone care to comment, or pick the ball up where we left off. Hoping for insight and feedback about inner prejudice in the "tg" ie.... transsexual, transvestite, drag, cross dressing, gender variant world. We have had soooo much REAL sharing, it would be a shame to let this little room die. Read from page one and comment. Such...
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Re: RIP, VIP
Widely publicized and with a NYMag article to come out Holly died last week. She had been my art dealer from 1974-1980. Everything the many NYTimes obits said about her and Grace Gluck's full biography is true. She treated artists like friends, supported many many talents, and went with her gut feelings no matter what the odds. My personal memory which I'll never forget was the crazy summer we drove up to Lake Placid with a stationwagon trunk full of white wine and returned with a...
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Re: RIP, VIP
Holly was a steam roller. She paved the way. She had one of the first galleries in SOHO. When SHE moved downtown EVERYONE moved downtown. Holly started so many people's careers. Too many to mention. She was often the first person to give an artist a break. Most of the household name artists of the 70's, 80's, 90's and beyond got their start somehow with Holly. Holly, subsequently, had one the best art collections in the world. Going to her apt. (57th Street) was like going to the Museum of...
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Re: Can We Build a Less Prejudiced TG Sense of Community?
I must agree that trans-discrimination has been phenomenally irrational and intense, but I have seen wonderful changes for the better. I have experienced just about evey kind of abuse over the years. It's important to keep ones center and not take any o f that harshness inside of oneself, but to recognize it for what it is and let it go. Yes, it has often seemed that too many people believe that a Transperson is nothing but something to point at, laugh and gawk. Many young men and some not...
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Re: Page
Uncommon talent, very decent human being, kind, considerate to me always. I would have to call Page a lady in every sense of the word-what a world it would be if we could all be exquisite, inventive, well mannered and generous. [This message was edited by Rose Royalle on 07-22-02 at 07:10 AM.]
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Re: Page
When I first arrived in the Blade Runner 'esuqe city that New York was in 1990, I remember seeing this tall "Woman" with a bleach blonde flatop, horned rimmed sunglassed, in the dark of night, and glitter red lipstick, while dressed in a retro new wave look about 10 years before anyone thought it was cool to bring that back. She waltzed up to me and said, "Hi, I'm Page...who are you ?" My eyes opened a little wider and what was possible in this life became a little broader and I saw the...
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Re: East Side, West Side, All Around The Town
Two persepctives on what's going on in Times Square and the sex market. First, from today's NY Daily News: And a more lenghty analysis from the NY Times:
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Re: BURNING MAN
so far... goblin73 glamnerd anyone else?? lurkers?? the glamour goblins ghetto has been slightly renamed the glamour goblins GROTTO (or G3) in keeping with this year's theme - the floating world. i expect to see LOTS of mermaids and pirates and other aquatic creatures. also, the G3 is now part of woonami village. which includes the forementioned woowoo field. confusing, yes. but the change in nomenclature is just a growing pain of our recurring temporary community. what started out as 30...
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Re: The Club Creatures - Zazoo & Satori
A bit of explanation... Mark Twain is said to have once wrote: "When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it's always 20 years behind the times." This still holds true. We were asked to host a night at a local gay club here in Cincinnati about a year after Zazoo was "born." we agreed, but only on our terms... What did this mean? Well... 1. Good music. 2. No crappy Drag Queens badly lipsyching to 3 year-old songs. 3. "Freaks" got in free They reluctantly agreed to...
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Re: Jo-Jo Baby - DollMaker
Was out last night at a renegade punk bar in Billyburg (i.e. Williamsburg, the Brooklyn art mecca) tossing back stale beer / listening to Sepulatura with a newly migrated New Yorker who came to us via London from Chicago. Indeed, I am growing quite fond of this witty, brazen and beautiful girl who aspires to wrestle more than anything in the world. We were talking of the windy city and I mentioned you had joined the ArtMaker forum. And such a smile came across her face as she told me how...
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Re: David Wojnarowicz - Artist
---Or, Daddy-D. & Hatches, "We tell ourselves stories to keep ourselves alive," says Joan Didion, as quoted in an intro to a "quasi-fiction" American queer "best of" anthology featuring the work of David Wojnarowicz ... by Brian Bouldrey ---Goblin, for thee I have done mass research and have compiled a "DW" file of information for this topic some 40 pages in length ... It is too much for any one person to take in one night. So I will be adding links to names and places throughout this...
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Re: David Wojnarowicz - Artist
Daddy-D: I promise not to dreg up emotions too often. And someday, you and Chi Chi will have to let me write a bit about your early exploits. This is something I look forward to. You know, one of the first conversations I had with Rose, maybe about four years ago, was about whether or not I could come in to Mother early one night just to interview her. She seemed to me to have stories untold of amazing interest (however since there was no place to publish such tales) I did not pursue the...
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Re: The Club Creatures - Zazoo & Satori
No! A dancefloor is everybody's always!!! And I did love watching it--you two running off!! You couldn't pay people to look so jarred!! And the faux pas is mine. The theory was to make an interactive imprmptu video. The problem (well technically there were several glitches) but the biggest being -- the music is not yet appropriate for the dance floor, perhaps even to ears. If it was, people wouldn't have been so confused. But I got through it and had to laugh myself at the mockery I made.
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Re: RIP, VIP
Next to Quentin Crisp, one of my favorite New Yorkers was an uptown girl whom I belatedly learned passed on. I was visitng the NYTimes obit section for the first time in many months and discovered Daphne Helman, had passed away this summer very close to if not on Warhol's birthday.) She was listed as a name on the bottom of the page but the link wasn't working. Later that day I was on the Motherboards in the Versailles section and was reminded of the RIP VIP which I've also avoided far too...
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Re: RIP, VIP
From: uravampire@mindspring.com Subject: [queerleft] Fwd: Harry Hay obituary - New York Times Is there going to be a NYC (or in other cities) memorial for Harry Hay, and more than mourning, as doing what Harry Hay had often done, which way forward for the queer movement? In May 2003 there will be a gathering of queer lefties in NYC at the Brecht Forum, to put the issue of queer liberation back in the heart of the socialist/anarchist/left movments and reconnect the queer community to the...
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Re: RIP, VIP
Thank You R_R for posting the Hay obit. I was truly hoping someone else would so that I wouldn't, least others think I might be obsessing on death here. I am or do, but I try keeping it under wraps until my own moment arrives. Something I find myself looking forward to the older I get, the more disturbing the world becomes. What I love about reading these accounts is the wonderful golden nuggets of information you discover about people who've managed to make a differnce for the better...
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Re: RIP, VIP
With his sometimes crackpot notions and radiant, ecstatic, vision of the holiness of being queer, Harry Hay refused to play the model homosexual EVEN IN THE GLOW of its conservatism, America "” which was formed via revolution, after all has always taken a certain pride in its radicals. Even so, America prefers to remember its history-makers in sanitized versions with none of the messy, often embarrassing flaws that are usually inscribed on the souls who take it upon themselves to change the...
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Re: DH and the Fishsticks
The outrageous Edina and Patsy are back for a one off special on BBC ONE later this year. Joining them are the long suffering Saffy, Mother and Bubble. The show also features special guest stars Whoopi Goldberg (as social counsellor Goldie), with Debbie Harry and Graham Norton playing themselves alongside some very familiar faces from the cat walk scene. Patsy (Joanna Lumley) has now left her job on a glossy magazine to become a very important Creative Director and Buyer for Jeremy's, a new...
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Re: Burlesque Queen MISS KELLY WEBB Loses Everything in Tragic Thanksgiving Fire- PLEASE READ
Kelly is truly my sister, my greatest ally. She's a tireless performance artist in every sense, and has done so much work for our community. She worked very hard this summer on the Qwe're Musicfest graphics and logo, capturing the spirit with her own special flair. If anyone needs me to come and retrieve clothes or other supplies they would like to donate, please e-mail me (joe@birdsongnyc.com) or call 212.414.4222. One of my dearest friends on the planet, Miss Webb colors the way I look at...
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Re: Adam Ant
i just saw that adam's recent descent into mental illness is all the attention adam got & feel this must be remedied. (oh right, he's obnoxious & cute too. like i said.) adam took my 11-year-old, boring, suntan-parlors-&-gift-shops suburban world (yes i was raised on LI) & turned it upside down with one viewing of "stand & deliver!" a pretty boy in makeup with pistols & tall leather boots?! GIVE ME MORE!! my teenage self yelled: antmusic for sexpeople, indeed. he's...
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Re: The overture is about to start...
I came across this post quite by accident and thought Id bounce it up for history's sake and add a few grey eminence-like thoughts of my own. is the Empress' inaugural post right before the boards opened. A small group of us, maybe 25, were invited in beforehand to seed, and from that group came most of the early and original moderators. It is a great misconception about communities like this that they just happen - this post reminds us that our Empress had a good deal of it in mind when it...
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Re: Please help us rename this Forum
heard frequently on the pier in the early and mid ninties on any given Sunday morning from any number of club form, wig-wearing, platform-dangling, clothes-barely still-wearing, wandering wonder (of The World) ... "girrrrlll, last night, oooooooh, the only walk ah shame "
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Re: Straight To Hell (Sex Stories)
I guess almost everything revolves around sex, and well, money too, but that's another forum entry all together. I leisurely mouse-clicked into a Maui gay chat room tonight on the World Wide Web, barefoot, topless, holding my java in my hand, wearing nothing more than a pair of tight faded Levi's with a paint stain on the crotch and a rip in the left knee. I'm not one for online chat programs really. ICQ and Yahoo Messenger sit tranquil upon my desktop collecting Internet dust and most of my...
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Re: Join us at Hooker's Ball 4 New Year's Eve
Another spectacular evening and show! The House of Dominantion always rocks and never fails to "titilate" Having the Amster. Red Light district theme added the perfect touch of sleaze to the festivities. Thanks again Chi Chi and Daddy. A New Years Eve Hookers Ball also happens to be a wonderful setting for an artist rendering of a peep show. Tanya did an amzing job, especially considering the amount of time she had to set it up in! And Tanya, where did you get a copy of a 1969 Playboy? Huh...
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Re: Tracks NYC
trakxs sinful sundays limelight disco 2000 the world and red zone with all that happens the world still turns
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Re: Tracks NYC
Jeepers! Your mention of The World reminds me of the time I went there years ago, basically fresh off the plane from Denver, and there was a man walking around the dancefloor selling drugs off of a tray, like a waiter. No one thought anything of it and the bouncers didn't even blink.
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Re: Join us at Hooker's Ball 4 New Year's Eve
I spent part of the New Years at dinner with my friend Yab who had been to Jackie 60 with me a few times. We lamented missing the fun and went out to seek our own at a few drinking contests with friends. Yab is an enthusiastic blogger, and reads more of these than anyone else I know. He sent me this link to a Hookers Ball report, and I think the author, Reive, is a member here (notsure.) Its very well written, regardless, and one more reminder of how small our Brave New World is. Sorry to...
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Re: Join us at Hooker's Ball 4 New Year's Eve
That was indeed me. Smaaaaall world. [This message was edited by Chi Chi on 01-07-03 at 12:41 PM.] [This message was edited by Chi Chi on 01-07-03 at 12:42 PM.]
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Re: Beams To Bobby Part 2
Judith mistakenly started a topic with this one (no biggie, Judith, just use the "post reply" button, not "post topic")
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Re: Beams To Bobby Part 2
thank g-d we got new year's out of the way and we can get back to real life! the news is good? the news is bad? i don't know. they're filming an episode of "law and order" outside my window and i'm hoping to see jerry orbach. no matter what is going on in the world, i focus on the important things. especially important is BARBARA JEAN MILLER! keep goin' on, my love, things can only get better!! i think of you all the time but especially when i walk by your doorway. lots of love coming your...
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Re: AB FAB
Oh, Glammy, you make me positively green with a severe case of envy. I'm not one for admiration, much less adoration, but you've hit my weak spot with the Ladies of AB FAB. As I refuse to be star-struck in this E! Entertainment world, know that I am alternately pursing my mouth and sighing each and every time you spill the beans. More, please!
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Re: David Wojnarowicz - Artist
This may be a lead for you, but it's in German, so perhaps, someone can interpret for us ... Perhaps see also Transgender-net.com ---------------------------------- For the rest of you I've found some new references and perspectives ... And on the Exhibition front ... check out ... "The Fales Library" at the New York University Library - Downtown Collection - David Wojnarowicz Papers And also a great 1986 mention that should not be omitted from this topic ...
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Re: David Wojnarowicz - Artist
My education really went as far as 8th grade- I never made passed the first year of high school, got my G.E.D. later and went to a few semesters of college- left that as well, and everyone thought I was crazy when I received a full scholarship to the Art Institute of Chicago,and said "fuck it- I don't want to go" and it was not because I think there is nothing more for me learn, they just were not teaching the things that I was/ am interested in- (even if I didn't know what it was I wanted...
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Re: David Wojnarowicz - Artist
I just re-read this entire topic. It's amazing, so much information. Tonya, you are insane... God bless you! And Doug, You're a little mistaken... and going to catch hell from ME! well, that's a whole lot to explain but Warhol & Basquiat are major. Just look at the world around you. Turn on the TV (and don't say "I don't watch TV") It's a Warhol! You may not like it but it's there. And Basquiat's paintings are more beautiful than ever. But this is about D.W. Here is "Hattie as Rimbaud",...