I remember seeing Phillips years ago on one of the last Tonight Shows with Johnny Carson. She was in the deep end with it and her facial expressions and motor skills were so distorted the camera couldn't keep up with her! Not to mention if the camera is supposed to put 10 lbs on you I don't want to think of what she actually looked like to the human eyeball.

Let's hope Harry does more than read! And I've always thought those London rags needed page 2 BOYS, not girls.
Cabs are fucking expensive now! I knew the hike was coming, and after what, seven years, cabbies deserve the raise probably. But gosh, it really hits you where it hurts. Sure wish they could have nickle and dimed their way up over a few years rather than all at once.

A cab from Chelsea to Park Slope Sunday night really knocked the wind out of me. We weren't to the middle of the Manhattan Bridge when the meter passed what is normally the entire fare home, including tip. Intoxicated and bitter, when the fare came to $18.20 and I handed over a 20 and asked for a dollar back, the cabbie protested and practically threw the remaning 80 cents back at me, cursing.

Living in Brooklyn as I do, I ALWAYS tip generously, knowing it's sometimes not so lucrative for a taxi to make the trip back into the city with no passengers. But after just shelling over an extra 4+ dollars, I couldn't help but protest in my small way.

It was surprising though that the cabbie reacted so furiously given that the new fare had been in effect all of two hours...
I am such a lazy git...always hailing cabs... note to self - this is getting more expensive than a crack habit... trying to wean myself onto public transport more often in the evenings.. also..cost of milk has sky rocketed.. do you think I could get my 3yr old to start drinking beer.. might be cheaper?

PS The alleged "whole foods" in the ole Bradlees space .. looks like its getting bigger and bigger construction seems to be building extra floors... surly the whole building won't be packed full of multi-grains? any more ideas of what this space will be...
And that 'dorm' on Avenue B... lordy Lord.
I understand the need for a raise, but to hike the initial fee plus the 10 extra cents per click is too much. It should have been one or the other. I, too, was a generous tipper, but now they'll have to settle for flat fare.
not just the hike for the initial fee and the extra 10 per, but the extra dollar between 4 & 8.



and, the bradlee's building is going to be whole foods and forever 21 on the lower floors and office space for cantor fitzgerald on the upper levels.
I often would get a cab back from my office nr Bryant Park back to 14th and 2nd Av... used to be around $6-7... now its $9 without a tip!!
LUXURY LAPPING: Revenge of the Titty Bars?

A resurgence of name brand Las Vegas-style strip bars in midtown seems to be signaling a new era of "respectability" for the titty-twirlers and for New York. Not quite as sleazy as their Times Square predecessors, these new clubs are sleeker, bigger and more corporate in their approach, but it beats having no titty bars at all. Does this mean the Big Apple's sphincter is finally loosening again after so many years of Guiliani's attacks? Or is the sex industry just getting tamer? Does anyone know if strippers are still required to wear pasties to cover their nipples?

Meanwhile outside the clubs the hookers are making their way back, albeit slowly. Guess you can't keep a good woman down.

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Dancing in the Lap of Luxury
By MIREYA NAVARRO
The New York Times
Published: May 12, 2004

The chairs come in plush velvet or leather. There are main rooms, dining areas, private nooks and alcoves scented by candles. The multiple stages are bathed in high-tech lighting, Champagne flows, and the women, the main attraction, sparkle in glittery gowns - that is, until they strip down to their G-strings for a $20 lap dance.

But do not call them strippers. In this multimillion-dollar "gentlemen's club," they are "entertainers."

"The clients are classier and have more money, and the girls tend to be more educated and business-savvy," said Edniz Rivera, 23, an aspiring lawyer from Brooklyn who works as a dancer at the new Larry Flynt's Hustler Club in Manhattan. "There's a difference between saying, 'Hello, how are you?' and 'Yo. What's up?' "

Upscale strip clubs now call the West Side of Manhattan home, in neighborhoods not far from where seedier peep shows, topless bars and pornography stores once flourished in Times Square. In fact, with the opening of Penthouse Executive Club last June, Hustler and Scores WestSide in March and C.E.O. Club of New York last month, a cluster of half a dozen both new and old strip clubs now spreads from West Chelsea to upper Midtown in what a Scores telephone recording calls "Manhattan's new entertainment zone."

Dallas and Las Vegas are known for their luxurious strip clubs, which owners argue have helped make those cities big destinations for conventions and business travelers. But New York is just catching up with this type of entertainment; the political climate turned hostile to the industry in the 1990's when Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani vowed to stamp it out, or at least dilute it.

Mr. Giuliani ushered in zoning regulations that restricted where clubs, sex shops and bookstores and similar businesses could operate - at least 500 feet from schools, churches and each other, for example, and with only a portion of the premises' space devoted to sex-related activity - and succeeded in ridding the city of dozens of mostly small businesses. But the regulations had loopholes that have allowed most of the businesses to adjust and survive, and they also left areas zoned for manufacturing available for cabarets devoting 100 percent of their space to such activity as long as they do not exceed 10,000 square feet, city officials said.

Now, near the Hudson River, stripping is so unemcumbered that it comes with doormen, valet parking, renowned chefs and ads on billboards and television.

Some experts, like Dave Manack, associate publisher of Exotic Dancer Publications, argue that Mr. Guiliani's campaign may even have provided the impetus for the surge in fancy clubs, whose patrons increasingly include couples and women. "If you want to flourish, you have to present yourself as an upscale venue that would attract a large audience, not just men," he said.

But New York is also joining a nationwide trend, which involves not only more luxurious strip clubs but also more standardization, club owners said. Many of the newer clubs around the country use brand names like Penthouse under licensing deals. Angelina Spencer, national director of the Association of Club Executives, a trade association of strip clubs, said that chains have proliferated in the past five years, offering consistency in service and entertainment and going after volume.

"It's like the Wal-Mart stores eating up the mom-and-pop stores or going in competition with them," said Ms. Spencer, who owns a Penthouse club in Cleveland.

And an increase in upscale and bigger clubs is also creating more public acceptance, some club owners said.

"The market is increasing," said Brad Shafer, a lawyer for Hustler and other strip clubs. "The clubs are seeing more couples. There are women coming in together. It is becoming much more acceptable."

Women now hold bachelorette parties or birthday celebrations for husbands and boyfriends in such clubs, and even take striptease classes from the dancers.

Some nearby residents are trying to make the best of things, and forging relationships with their new neighbors. In the case of Scores WestSide, at 536 West 28th Street, members of Community Board 4 even asked the management to plant street trees and hire locally.

"They have an understanding of what our expectations are, and we have an understanding of who they are," said Anthony Borelli, the board's district manager.

But others say, high-end or not, the new clubs are attracting street prostitutes. Charles Spence, president of the West 44th Street Better Block Association, said residents were seeing a "reinfiltration" of smut.

"The community has worked so hard to clean up the neighborhood, and this is a setback," he said.

On a recent Thursday night, a few female customers at Penthouse Executive Club - a $10 million club at 603 West 45th Street at 11th Avenue, with a capacity of about 400 - were game for a lap dance.

"This is an opportunity to see up close, to see what it looks like," said Jesse Oliver, 23, who works in marketing for a technology company and got a lap dance from a blond dancer who tripped and fell at Ms. Oliver's feet. "I want to see what my boyfriend finds in them."

Another customer, Kevin Kelly, 41, said he was entertaining his out-of-town business partner.

"As long as they are legitimate, they are fun and the women are phenomenal," he said while watching from the bar. "One of them told me she makes $2,000 a night. It's all because of suckers like me."

For the dancers, upscale means not only bigger tips but also a safer environment, less lewd clientele and nicer co-workers. Sex is not allowed or expected, they said, and customers are not allowed to grope.

"It's not a brothel," said a 32-year-old from the Bronx who just started dancing at Hustler Club. "It's a fantasy that we're selling."

Club owners say their business suffers unfairly from an underworld image and the impression that it is associated with prostitution, drugs and the mob. In fact, the city's best known luxury club, Scores, which opened in 1991 at 333 East 60th Street and still operates at that location, once had owners who admitted helping the Gambino organized crime family extort payoffs from the club's employees. Ms. Spencer said that any criminal element was the exception.

"There's a thorn in every industry," she said. "You only have to look at Enron or WorldCom to see that."

Amid the neon of the West Side, Mark Yackow, the Penthouse club's chief executive officer, said he welcomed the other strip clubs. "We look at it as an expansion of the marketplace on the West Side," he said.

But Victor Roiter, who joined three friends to open the C.E.O. Club at 552 West 38th St., said he was not sure how many lap dances the market could bear. "It's going to be a wait-and-see game," he said, "Who's going to survive and who's going to end up closing its doors."

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Hooray for strip clubs. Now maybe half the bimbos in the Domination business - who migrated here during the Giuliani crackdown - will get the hell out of the dungeons, and go back where they belong -- sucking up to clients!

I wonder if there is any truth to the rumors I have heard that:
1) The clubs will pay for breast jobs then take it out of your pay (indentured boobitude.)
2) The dancers/entertainers have to "tip out" the bartenders, waitpersons, hairdressers and makeup-artists... who otherwise have no salary.

Maybe in the new 'enlightened' industry these aspects of the enslavement have been phased out.
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The whole Rudiani crack down was aimed at the underclass, as the new boobclubs reveal. It's okay to strip and be stripped for if your 'upscale'. It just shows how snobs are just as venile as everyone else. And oh yeah I am sooo sure there is no sex, drugs or organized criminal activity at the new clubs. Sure. Everyone there is just a prom queen and a churchgoer, you bet. Probably one of the biggest reasons the clubs are back is because the 'appropriate' authorities at the local precinct station just could no longer pass up the big payoffs they used to charge to club owners.
Next to the vacant lot behind Khiels..June 7, 2004 -- A homeless man made a gruesome discovery yesterday when he tried to take an abandoned trunk off an East Village sidewalk, police said.
Finding the black trunk too heavy to move from the spot on East 13th Street between Second and Third avenues, the man opened it up "” and discovered a dead woman stuffed inside, cops said.
Whats really amazing is that this is hardly in any news reports today... didn't even make the press... I guess Ronnie and Nancy are far more important (guffaw)

PS Why is that lot vacant and has been for centurys?? In a city that is building on up like crazy (and Knocking down classic palladium buildings etc) why is that lot still empty??
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Oh, Anna, I know!

That chest was right on our doggie's regular pee-spot, and I had walked her there bout two hours before the body was discovered. It was a HUGE scene out there, but the only mention I saw was on NY1...which is why I will always keep my Time Warner cable.

I think if the body turns out to be a model or a college student, it will become a huge story. If its just one of the heroin hos from that particular stroll, we'll probably never hear about it again.
Sadly you are SO RIGHT Empress....... tiny tiny tiny piece in yesterdays paper that said that the ".The police identified the woman as Myrna Gonzalez, 45, and said she had been arrested at least 18 times on drug-related charges. Her body was found about 4:25 p.m". I just hope one day when they find the body of an Enron Exec or Martha in a trunk on 13th they will print it like that .........It reminds me of when Amadou Diallo was shot 41 times and all the press raked up was "he was an ILLEGAL...he was here ILLEGALLY".
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Jeez was I not JUST saying how amazing it ws that that lot was vacant...can't wait for even more yuppies and NYU students to move in...

Bodies Stuffed in Trunks Out; Rentals In!
In the feel-good real estate development story of the week, developers have announced plans to build a residential building on the empty East Village lot where a woman's body was found stuffed in a trunk a few weeks ago. "I think that the market is right and there will hopefully be an agreement to go ahead and build the rental," the developer says.
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Here's one that's truly *all* around the town - Mr. Softee. I don't know or care if you patronize this rolling menace, all I know is that for years I've hated that incessant jingle sneaking up on me wherever I go. It seems I'm not the only one - Time Out New York's weekly poll reflects the matter, aking folks to vote whether of not Mr. Softee shoudl change the jingle.

So, if you love me, you'll go here and vote [hell] YES.

http://www.timeoutny.com/poll/

And with that, we're at 99 posts and this forum's now locked. Whoever's got something to post of local interest, please start East Side, West Side, All Around the Town Pt. 2

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