Michael Jackson

ok, seriously, why cant they leave the poor thing alone already....well he is not "poor" but still!
And i'm sure a lot of us know by this point that the media has always been blowing things way out of proportion just to have the public obsess over something and talk about nothing for days!
Why is MJ being so brought down? So what, so he had an extra 3000 of surgeries but it's his business!!! low self-esteem maybe, I dont know....
so he loves kids, whats wrong with that!
the balcony accident was a usual thing for him, for he claims he would even throw himself off of one if kids did not exist.
But lets face it, we all make mistakes!
MJ is just different from the mainstream society, that's all....i'm sure non of us would like to be talked about in a bad way just cause we are "different". He just lives in his own little world, so why wont people let him live there and leave him alone.

I didn't see the interview everyone's talking about, but honestly .... I feel sorry for him. Really deeply sorry for him. I wouldn't want to be him for all the money in the world. Obviously he is a deeply troubled person as evidenced by what he's done to his face via surgery, but I've always viewed his craziness as completely benign. I think what's happened to him is really tragic in the truest sense of the word. The reasons for it I guess would be a combination of many factors, but he is totally TRAPPED by his fame and completely "locked in" to his choices about plastic surgery ... at this point there is no turning back, he is stuck with that messed up face FOREVER. He will never be free of it. Very sad.

Jade agreed it was a tabloid interview... but he and his life is sensationalist fodder in any way you look at it. Bottom line is YES he is very sad and yes hes had an f'ed up life and yes the show was tabloid-tabloid. But there are other elements which don't factor in his life - he is a very shrewd business man with a clever 'boy-child' facade. Many people have spoken about his manipulation... sure there are readers of the boards who know Sandy Gallin (one of the Bleckner, geffin possee) who i understand was ripped off by MJs business... Paul McCartney and Howard Stern (who did biz mtgs with him) have both gone public on record saying he is a calculted business man who is money and fame hungry. ... I think there is much more to this sad-child...when i worked for the BBC i had a meet n greet with him once and he had SO many yes men around him THAT was SAD...he did however seem very much in control.... but so many stars are like that.
I just feel sorry for him and don't care about him really 'cept that he is amazingly talented and a sad bastard. HOWEVER, i do have a real problem with the way he is bringing the kids into that strange world ....the veil thing and that they are more like pets to feed his empty life than real children to nurture... that said.. i know plenty of wacko Wall Street folks who have kids for that same reason (they just don't use veils but torture the kids in other ways!)... but i have a kid and it does sadden me the way the kids are restricted and are distorted. The veil on the baby really bothered me and it is dangerous... And bottom line is... if a 44yr old man in your area was befrending kids there would eb a total enquiry.... he would go to trial when allegations were brought up and would not be able to pay for silence...

Did ya catch Liz Taylor on Larry King... see seemed all doddery like one of those wobble head dolls...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html

The MJ law suit that was settled out of court

Well Anna as usual your perspective shines a new and sordid light on the whole matter!

There is something to the shrewd fame-hungry businessman angle. I read today on the Drudge Report that sales of his past albums (Off the Wall, Thriller and HIStory) have skyrocketed in the past week, proving the old adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

You are right also about his thing with the children. The bit about him yanking the newborn out of the hospital with afterbirth still on it is bizarre, to say the least. And though I'm not convinced he is actually molesting those children he hangs out with, it is certainly true that any ordinary man would be the subject of intense police scrutiny if goings-on were afoot. I certainly wouldn't want my kid doing it. If you ask me I think the parents of those kids are a bit irresponsible and probably conniving stage mothers/fathers, hoping to get something out of MJ.

btw - what did Liz Taylor have to say about it? Liz is totally CRAZY, but I have to admit she's always been one of my favorite stars.

Liz, was off her cake as usual in her own lil superstar bubble... she-as usual- was sick and was showing a cast on her foot... she was also giggly giddy schoolgirl at time... To be honest I was flicking between that and some other shite on the telly so didn't really take much notice.. they did show a fab Herb Ritts tv ad that was made just before his death for her fragrance...
Her hair was awful really yellow over bleached blonde ... wish she did that dark hair again.. she was so beautiful..and (don't know if you have ever met her?) but her eyes ARE AMAZING!
Plus, anyone who shagged Richard Burton and hung out in Welsh pubs is alright by me...

Again.. as for Michael... i too would not let him with my tyke alone... would prefer Messy Bonny as the nanny over Messy Michael

Only the poor girl doesn't know it yet. And those little jam-outs of his don't look the same with a gut under a silk shirt (a la Bea Arthur fashion predictability). And I'm gonna say it: I want to touch his nose. It's a fine Picasso, with his crooked myriad of triangles. Isosceles, equilateral, a pyramid, all contributing to the success of pecking in his tree.
The one that I'm worried about is that little Mexican boy. That little monologue was brilliantly rehearsed, and I hope he's getting his money's worth. How many 11-14 yr. old boys do you know hold their guy-friends' hands? Only budding tranny-chasers.

[This message was edited by B. Domination on 02-07-03 at 02:11 PM.]

Let's face it, MJ is being persecuted by the press the same way that the Marquis deSade and Oscar Wilde were.

Hey, MJ can't be all bad. He gives the kids milk and cookies before spending the night with them.. and he doesn't ask them to go to bed with him... as he so proudly states, the kids ask him!

I think Michael is an extremely talented artist. When I first was a DJ at The Mudd Club (1980) I featured Michael Jackson. Believe it or not it was a scandal at the time. The Mudd Club was the trendy "Punk" club and Michael Jackson definately did NOT fit the mold. Playing Disco music (read: black music) at the time was not cool at "Punk" venues like CBGB's, Max's Kansas City, or The Mudd. It was both too "Ghetto" and too "Studio 54". But I LOVED Michael's music and stuck by my guns and played him fiercly. I always saw him as more than just a pop star, I saw him as an "artist" (as in Museum of Modern Art). Even then I thought he was special and tuned into some artistic wavelength that we couldn't see yet. I went to bat for him countless times in all-night "art" discussions that people actually had back then. I even had a bottle thrown at me once for playing his music. I was sort of "the Michael Jackson guy". Of course I was right and a few years later Michael became the staple of EVERY East Village DJ.
(I told you so!)
I still think he is out there as an artist paving the way. He is doing the same thing Amanda Lepore is. The body modification thing. He just gets slack for it because he is still so entrenched in the "Walt Disney American Kiddie World" that Amanda has nothing to do with. I also think he is Totally insane and will end up a tragic figure. I don't see any way around that. After reading every book on Michael (including Latoya's brilliant autobiography) I now see that Michael never had a chance. His parents are THE SICKEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!! Especially the father. When Michael was a little kid, for example, and on the road he used to try and sleep with his head in a pillow while his brothers and father fucked women in the same bed as him. And the mother, a Jehova Whitness, would tell him how they were all going to hell etc. The poor kid never had a chance. I really feel sorry for his kids. They also don't have a chance in the world.

Please, let us not rush to blame abuse as the precursor to all strange behavior. This is not to say abuse does not happen, or does not have an impact on each it touches. However, there are millions who have been abused who have gone on and will go on to lead productive, "normal", harmless lives (even without therapy). We think of the horror of child abuse in western counties, but do not forget the everyday practices in other places. There are women out there that were "circumcised" and brought up in rituals of male superiority that lead very modern "normal" lives. I have very personal experiences, and have MANY friends who have had terrible experiences (some much worse than MJ) who have grown the fuck up and owned their lives. How about all the middle-class tenement, prairie, hut-living people of the early Americas, present natives, etc, who don't have enough room to not do IT in the same room? How about Mike's a very talented freak/dork who didn't have the advantage of an honest friend to tell him he doesn't have to act like that to get people to like him? Give me break people, because MJ's nothing but a spoiled child who grew up with role models that sucked and always had too much money for anyone to teach him the rudiments of being a grown-up. And I still think he could be a tranny.

The reasons for why MJ is the way he is are of course complicated and I'm sure the parental abuse part is only one aspect. Interesting to note the rest of the Jackson siblings, in particular Janet, seem to handle their adult lives in more normal-adjusted ways (though nobody is perfect and everyone has their problems). I just imagine him having to look at that massacred face every morning in the mirror for the rest of his life and knowing he will have to live with the consequences of his earlier decisions until his dying day. Heartbreaking!

I understand the argument that his plastic surgeries are a form of visual art like Amanda's, but in MJ one always has the sense that, where Amanda is creating something, MJ is running away from something. While Amanda seems to have a destination in mind when she gets something done, one never knows what strange driveway we'll turn onto when MJ gets more surgery. And in any case he just doesn't have her sense of style, pinache etc.

in his interview (read: gross prodding) he claimed he's never had surgury on his "face" except for the two on his nose (2!). woo hoo, believe that and the moon is lit from inside! he claimed it was a normal part of maturing. I guess maybe, since he and latoya look a lot alike. can you really grow a cleft chin?

That's also the difference between him and someone like Amanda - she celebrates her transformation - and I didnt know this before, but - he pretends it didnt happen! Did I mention he also claims he only altered his nose so he could "breathe better"?

I have an amazing book called "michael jackson was my lover" - we were selling them at A Different Light for a couple months before they went out of print. its by some guy who befriended the kids family who was involved in that lawsuit.

[This message was edited by Jade on 02-07-03 at 09:55 PM.]

First off, well said Lex, he is running away from something where Amanda is creating. But once again, so what? He's had some plastic surgery..so has Cher, George Hamilton, Joan Rivers.........................

Now for the "bad" news kids...like it or not, that interview last night was incredibly fair. In fact I don't think it was this guys intention to "get" Michael at all. I think he started out intrigued, just like the rest of us.

The only place in the interview were I think he over reacted was at the Zoo when the press was hounding them. That's the life of a kid who's parent is a superstar. He went on and on about how Michael could have done something about it and I think that was a bit overstated.

That being said, as for the rest of the interview I think he was pretty good to MJ. Let's start with this example: Last November when Michael hung his child out the window, does anyone remember "any" news organization telling us that the crowd below was chanting for the child? I certainly don't. This guy last night did. I'm not saying Michael should be hanging his kids over a balcony, but at least via this report last night, I finally had a reason for why he did it.

As for the groups of kids Michael busses in for day trips, the reporter said many times that he never saw anything inappropriate. In fact he said Michael was "Charming" and "Sweet" and the images they showed Micheal was just that.

I love hearing about bizzare creative people. I love the people who can buck the trend and make thier millions and give us all something to hope for and dream about. I think being able to climb into a tree at age 44, not that id want to do it, is being young at heart, eccentric and fun. This guy not only showed us that, he tried to climb into the tree himself.

I feel sorry for Michael not because he was hoodwinked and not because he had a rough childhood, but because he is sad. In spite of all his "haves" he is a have not. There is a huge hole there that we can't even begin to imagine.

That doesn't excuse the obvious. Children are sleeping in his bed?!! This just freaks me out. If I had been interviewing him and saw him holding that childs hand, I would have unleashed. (What this kids parents are thinking is beyond me and of course another story)

Now, let's assume for a second that nothing sexual has happened. Ok, you still settled a lawsuit accusing you of child molestation about 10 years ago and your still sleeping with and admitting on international tv that your sleeping with children? Come on guys!! This behavior is indefensible!

If you were wrongly accused of molesting a child would you put yourself in this position? I don't know who said it, but yes, if I suspected a neighbor or for that matter a friend, of sleeping with children, I'd do something about it.

We don't want to believe that our heros could be capable of such behavior. Especially someone who has achieved a status of American royalty.

There in lies the greatest "danger". "We don't want to believe"... what is "painfully" obvious.

I didnt think the questions were unfair - just done with blatant disregard for any jounalistic "distance" - the interviewer obviously could not help himself - notice how emotionally upset he was all the time - all that whining, all that passing judgement?? AS IF his interpretation of events was DEFACTO the same for us. Not true. Barbra Wawa joined in treating his conclusions of Jackson's behavior as fact - they arent. A good reporter lets or at least gives the appearance that the audience has the will to make up its own mind when given the facts. this was pure tabloid TV. Jacksons problems are troubling, but I felt the journalism was the sadder event.

Jade,

Fair enough. If those are the paramaters, then maybe he did cross the line a little bit. Since it did air on a "news program" I suppose it should have tried to hold itself, or ABC, should have held itself to a higher level.

Like I mentioned there was definitly his reaction to the zoo that turned me off. I guess were so inundated with tabloid news that sometimes it's hard to know what we are watching. That being said it doesn't bother me when Ted Koppell or Chris Matthews show thier skeptisism or disbelief with a subject or response to a question.

As far as Barbara Walters is concerned....my God...that woman became a parody of herself soooooo many years ago, I have trouble watching anything she's a part of.

If MJ were born white his nose wouldn't have been so big and flat and then he wouldn't have been driven to have so many botched up nose operations.

At least this is what a big black lady by the name of Flo Anthony tried to insinuate on the Rita Cosby Fox News show last night!!!

I felt very bad for the other 2 guests on the show, Michael Musto of the Village Voice and Ted Casablancas of E. Flo Anthony would not let either one of them get a word in edgewise. She was acting very loud and very rude toward them!

Yikes, playing the race card over MJ's fucked up nose!!! I think this whole Michael Jackson thing is getting totally out of hand!!!!

[This message was edited by Joel on 02-09-03 at 04:59 PM.]

I just revisited that old book I found "michael jackson was my lover" ewwww. I think I must have only looked at the photos before - it has everything you NEVER wanted to know about MJ: police interviews with former staff, the diary of the kid that accused him, personal details you dont want to know about anyone. Jackos world is not a pretty place. its in my give-away pile

ps - dont think Id like to "hang" with him at this point

Daddy, thanks for the historical references on Michael Jackson and your impressions of his work as an artist. Have always found MJ's music fun to dance to. Watched the show with Bobby while in Ptown and was prepared to hate him. He somehow won us over. Michael came across as very loving and supportive tho not terribly misunderstood.

SaturdayNightLive got it right when they gave time to the 'father' last week, who's character announced that Michael is not hard enough on his kids like he was, cause the father's kids all had jobs by the time there were five. Applying standards of child abuse and welfare are always hard, cause we would have to ask them to edit out the bedroom scene in 'The Sound of Music' where the nanny, fresh from a nunnery, invites all the children to sleep in her bed while she ends up sleeping with the father by the end of the movie and in real life.

[This message was edited by Joel on 02-15-03 at 12:37 PM.]

You know that's her next step! She's done everything she can possibly do that face, it's high time to start on the body. She should just get a pussy already and be done with it. Only in this country can someone go from being a black boy to a white woman.

Maybe MJ should set up a special Plastic Surgery Foundation for trannys and other qualifying individuals.

I remember once when I was in the 6th grade this rumor started going around school that MJ had undergone a sex change operation and was now going to be known as "Michelle" Jackson. Gullible me really believed it was true, and when I told my mother she laughed hysterically for days.

I used to worship Thriller - listened to it every night before going to bed. Its weird for fans of his music and what he was/seemed to be - who supported him so much in his early career to understand whats going on over there in Neverland. I had an interesting conversation with the mother of one of my students the other day - She was also a huge Jackson fan. She thinks he's probably harmless, but that this interview was a cry for some good therapy. (She also felt the interviewer turned on him towards the end of the documentary) She said even if he does "sleep" with children - why would you say so on TV? I think he crys out to be understood, but then tells all these tall tales to conceal certain parts of his world. You cant realy have it both ways. We both agreed (it was kind of surreal 'going there' with one of my clients) that Michael really thinks he is a child and chooses to live in that mentality. Couple that with all his wealth and ability to insulate himself from reality - sounds like a recipe for, well, - "jacko".

I too felt sympathetic to him after the interview. But I still feel he's hiding a great deal that is definately not wholesome or healthy. And all that pretending about his face - he seems to think that if you tell a lie enough times it will make it true.

I find him fascinating because he is a brilliant artist - but somehow so corrupt and so wrong in so many ways. I think being such a commercial star, coupled with his unique, fucked-up upbringing. I dont know - its interesting to talk to other people about him - because he's brought a lot of issues to the mainstream that are worthy of discussion - and its so rich!

also, I enjoyed the few moments where he talked about where his music comes from - how he intended a song with a strong bassline and then 'god' gave him Billy Jean - in one moment. love that - I was hoping for more of this kind of talk- but as with most 'celebrities' - you get too much of the drama and not enough of the incite into their artistic world.

Lost in all this mess is any kind of real defense of Jackson concerning the molestation. But a 1994 article in GQ Magazine by respected journalist Mary A.Fischer may wind up being Jackson's "smoking gun." In a good way. Called "Was Michael Jackson Framed?" the heavily researched article revealed that the parents and stepfather of 13-year-old Jordan Chandler were at odds with each other and in financial disarray when they seized on the idea of destroying Jackson.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78696,00.html

I've never totally bought the notion that Jackson is really having sex with those kids. Being insane and enormously rich, he'd be an easy target for the wrong kind of people to exploit. Frankly I think the parents are equally suspect and certainly share in the responsibility. Certainly there are parents out there, especially in Hollywood, who would prostitute their kids in exchange for money, movie or record deals, etc. And MJ's interaction with the kids may be totally innocent and sexless just like he claims, we really don't know. If there is sexual contact, I'm sure it's non-violent and a result of MJ being so out of it that he truly BELIEVES he's a big kid in the science fiction of his own mind, and so to him it's just one kid "experimenting" with another.

Whether he's actually had sex with the kids or not however, the fact that he would go on camera admitting to sleeping with kids after what happened in the court case years ago proves he's completely delusional and clueless. And the emphatic denials about his plastic surgery against such obvious physical evidence proves that he is a liar and probably believes his own lies. So we really have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. Very sad.

[This message was edited by Luxury Lex on 02-17-03 at 11:07 PM.]

I do not mean to beat a dead horse, but I did a little checking and this guy who purports to be Michael's friend - Uri Geller - is a real bottom feeder. For the last 5 years he's been a Michael Jackson parasite.

What a fraud this dude is. He claims he can bend spoons with his mind. How stupid! Doesn't he know that it's a lot easier and quicker to bend a spoon with your hands?????
LOL

Check out this site: Michael Jackson & Uri Geller together

...my issue goes back few years to the child abuse aligations. If as a parent you thought your child had been abused, would any amount of cash mean more that seeing the abuser tried and convicted? I guess my point is, it seems strange that the kids parents accepted money for silence...if someone HAD abused a child of mine no amount of $$$ would be enough!!

Yikes, I am never going to say another unkind thing about Michael Jackson again. In the just published April edition of Vanity Fair it is reported that MJ paid a voodoo witch-doctor of some sort to cast spells on people!!!! Michael paid $150,000 to put a death curse on Stephen Spielberg (and another one on David Geffin)!!

I personally think Michael also put a curse on these Motherboards!!!! Hey, Chi Chi and Daddy be careful in NOLA! I myself am not going to fuck around with MJ anymo'. Yikes, MJ's faux nose and faux page-boy wig means he really does mean business! I can't prove it, but I think MJ paid to have a voodoo curse put on me too!!! The mean vicious little bastard!
Michael Jackson puts VooDoo curse on Spielberg

All evidence would suggest the voodoo curse backfired. Spielberg and Geffen continue to thrive personally and professionally; Jackson's face, family and reputation are in ruins. Be careful what you wish for.

David Geffen is probably lounging poolside with a harem of boys at his mansion right now as I type, reading the Vanity Fair article and laughing away the afternoon.

Who did he pay $150,000 to.... Miss Cleo!
Obviously I am in the wrong biz.... where is that curse book..........

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I personally think Michael also put a curse on these Motherboards!!!! ... Yikes, MJ's faux nose and faux page-boy wig means he really does mean business! I can't prove it, but I think MJ paid to have a voodoo curse put on me too!!!

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you're right, joel...
nothing says "i mean business" like a fierce, butch page boy do.
and i would be careful if i were you.
or else you might be dangled by your feet over a hotel balcony.
or worse!!

just wondering... what have you done to piss off la thriller so???

In the last 2 years I almost died from a deep throbosis blood clot in my deep veins and also I have been afflicted with pneumonia and lung embulisms which have developed into some stupid form of COPD!!

As soon as I read the Vanity Fair article today about Michael Jackson, my illnesses suddenly all make sense. The little bugger has cast da spell on me - yikes!

Ya see, I have a lot of sites on the internet and some of them tell it like it is about Michael:

Michael and Latoya

Michael's noxious enemas

Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson

Joel tells Michael Jackson jokes

Yikes, I'm calling my attorney tomorrow. I am thinking of suing Michael Jackson if it turns out that he has paid money to have a curse put on me.

La Toya was on Larry King last night.... OHMAHGAWRD! She was a total Stepford wife ... constantly in this hysterical smile telling the world that she is SO Happy and LIfe is wonderful and that Michael is WOnderful and her father is a wonderful man... etc etc.... obviously girlfriend needs that family ca$h.... It was very scary as she was really on the verge of insanity but with this big plastic Everythings GREAT (gritted teeth smile)... VERY frightening and hysterical to watch....
She was in total denial about ever selling stories to the tabloids too which was funny... almost talked in the 3rd person... a shrink would have had a field day with her.... pity it was Larry King that interviewed her and not a real journalist.

Anna Nicole, I suspect her brother Michael has put a spell on her.

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doesnt that dumb-ass witch know that any curse you put out there comes back x3??

C'mon, guys! LaToya and MJ ARE the same person. It's called fully-transformative split-personality disorder. Instead of just being two or more people in the head, the body actually takes on the form of the identities. This phenomena occurs during ritual satanic abuse, where the victim taps into the power of their most primitive cortex, reshaping their bodies in primordial-ooze instinct, thus allowing them to camouflage their bodies and escape their attackers. We all know MJ was from a broken home, and he even admitted himself (in that tell-all interview) he used his imagination to escape - but even he knew not how far! LaToya is rarely seen with her family, and they are always reluctant to speak much about her, very much like an embarassed mother is loathe to discuss her child's only friend - an imaginary bird.
We must not badger MJ, we must not ridicule him. We must help ween him from his childhood escape-route. Can we find a way for him to comfortably merge his innerselves? We must rally around the poor child crying out for what he most desperately needs, and we must find a way to convince him it is for the sake of all that is beautiful, all that is pure, and all that is innocent on this forsaken plane! Give him a sex-change!

BD. will you show me that p[rimordial ooze trick?

From today's Page Six (NYPost):

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Long line of Jacko ex-pals

MICHAEL Jackson's alarming behavior is costing him all his old friends. The latest to part company: Cher. "I don't have a nice thing to say about him. He and I were friends when he was little. I watched him grow up and all that, but, you know, you dangle a baby over a balcony, that's it for me," she told Entertainment Tonight. "If it was up to me, he wouldn't have those babies now." Cher told TV Guide: "I don't really care what he does to his face. He could just erase it as far as I'm concerned .¤.¤. This guy is nuts. He shouldn't have these children." Elizabeth Taylor reportedly severed her relationship with Jacko when he treated her rudely. His ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley told Rolling Stone he is "manipulative and controlling." Now Star reports that Jacko - wearing a plastic mask with eyes and lips painted on it - visited the Grove shopping center in L.A. where he fell in love with a $210 handbag with a see-through plastic pocket for child photos. What he really liked was a picture in the display purse of one of the designer's two boys. He persuaded the store owner to sell him the bag with her son's photo in it. A rep for Jackson didn't return calls.

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"King of Pop" Michael Jackson was selected as the "most foolish American" in a poll out on Friday, ahead of April Fool's Day. To quote:

"Eighty per cent of those polled said Jackson, who has been in the media spotlight again since a British television documentary shed new light on his personal life, was the biggest fool in the country, public relations consultant Jeff Barge said, who has the survey taken every year.

Jackson, 44, drew foolish reviews for, among other things, dangling his baby son out a window in Germany to show him to fans last year.

Boxer Mike Tyson came in a foolish second."


Michael Jackson Chosen Fool of the Year by Aussie Press

Hey, everyone is turning on Michael, even Cher. I guess the old song is true- "Nobody knows you when you're down and out."

Wacko in his own words and home movies on the telly this Thurs... can't wait! (ahh i love tabloid shite)... i saw a clip and his son looked the spit of one of those kids from that movie Village of the Dammed (?) you know where all the kids are all evil, blond Aryan...

scary...
More family pics..
Daddy please hire a bloke and two midgets in masks to the next Magique and we can call Page 6 and say its wacko and the kids... PLEASE daddy!

Mother Sabrina does that every week.

WAS there really an Atlantis?
WHERE is the Holy Grail?
WHO is the biological father of Michael Jackson's Children?

Whether the cloaks of these enigmas will be unfurled in time, or, if they are left unsolved...they will forever spark our HUMAN IMAGINATION...(dum dum DUMMMMM!)...!

Ah.... wacko is on the telly tonight.... can't wait....

his blonde kids' got roots! I saw!

Why is Daddy in this photo with Liza and Liz and whacko?

Sorry , thats not Daddy, its David Gest with make up on to look like Daddy.

I think Daddy looks alot like that old chick on the right. I mean did you ever see him in drag? Scary!

I was watching some MJ show the other night and I thought it was cute when he said he puts on Janets music an dances around.....

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Jacko's whiter than white
3 October 2003
The Evening Standard

When a four-year-old boy called Kalien met Michael Jackson, he just didn't know what to make of him.

The child shrank back in the arms of his grandfather, the singer's physician Dr Allan Metzger. And he wasn't alone in his astonishment.

The 45-year-old singer's complexion drew gasps at the charity event in Beverly Hills. For he was whiter than the white partygoers.

Jackson insists his appearance is due to the rare skin disorder vitiligo.

An onlooker said: 'It looked as if he'd dunked his face in a bowl of talcum powder.

But his face actually is that pale. He looks positively scary - like a ghost.

'It's hard to believe Michael Jackson used to be a black man. Now he looks like a very odd white woman.'

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Help! Kalien faces his own Thriller show

taken at the same function. Not a hapi phace!

How could I have missed it? How could any of us? Michael Jackson is a real life Anne Rice vampire! The clothes, the sunglasses, the gloves, the inexhaustable amounts of wealth, the endless search for a "young companion", his questionable sexuality, and the most obvious sign of them all: his skin seems to be getting whiter, more luminescent, and strangely harder as the years go by. Hmmm....

Yikes, I just heard that the Santa Barbara sherrifs office is at the Never Land Ranch looking for our guy Michael. Evidently a 12 year old boy is claiming that MJ molested him!!! Can
ya believe this! Hey, at this point, I think the parent's of the kid should be served with a warrant instead of Michael. Everyone by now knows MJ's fascination toward little 12 year old boys. If anything, I say the kid's parents set the kid up with MJ so that they could get a pay-out from MJ. I mean, every parent in the worrld must know by now that MJ is one sick puppy. I wouldn't let my child hang out with Michael, that's for sure. What parent would??

They are the real bottom feeders, all these parasites making a buck off a truly talented, tho truly screwed up and sick individual, by having their kids be mollested by him. It is pretty sick and pretty crazy. Anyway, this is my read on it.

Could very well be a set-up. Or not. In any case she's a tragic figure.

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DEPUTIES SEARCHING JACKSON'S RANCH
Search warrant issued after allegations made by 12-year-old boy
MSNBC News Services

Nov. 18 "” Santa Barbara County sheriff's deputies are executing a search warrant at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch, according to several broadcast reports.

"DOZENS" OF UNIFORMED deputies arrived at the pop star's ranch outside Santa Barbara and served the warrant at approximately noon ET, according to Court TV. The cable channel also reported that the search was being executed under the direction of Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon based on allegations made by a 12-year-old boy.

A "convoy" of law enforcement vehicles, including a forensic evidence collection vehicle and an ambulance passed through the gates at Neverland, which is located in the Santa Ynez Valley outside of Santa Barbara. The ambulance left the scene shortly afterward.

A Court TV reporter said a portable toilet was brought to the scene, indicating perhaps that law enforcement officers will be there "for quite some time."

Jackson's spokesman, Stuart Backerman, did not answer his cell phone and did not immediately return messages early Tuesday.

The search comes on the same day Epic Records released "Number Ones," a greatest hits collection featuring Jackson's new single, "One More Chance." On Nov. 26, CBS is scheduled to air a Jackson special consisting mainly of old concert footage.

Allegations of sexual contact involving the 45-year-old singer were made by a 13-year-old boy in 1993. That case was settled out of court.

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If this is the alligation and if it's true then not only is Michael Jackson to blame but the parents of the child who he last molested are to blame. The fact that they put a price tag on their stolen childhood is sickening. I can't imagine anyone not prosecuting and seeking revenge on a person the diddled their kid. The media also allowed MJ to protray it as if he was the victim after he paid out millions to some kids parents. Sick, real sick

When that TV show premiered earlier this year, the one that ignited all that press about MJ in which he confessed to sharing his bed with kids, there was a Hispanic boy on it who had cancer but was getting better. I wonder if it's the same one mentioned here. I noticed at the time how the cancer patient boy, who was pretty, was MJ's favorite and the one to sleep in his bed ... while the boy's fatter and plainer siblings slept in some other room.

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411: Jacko Accuser: 'Wine, Sleeping Pills'
Wednesday, November 19, 2003
By Roger Friedman
Fox News

The 12-year-old boy at the center of the Michael Jackson child molestation scandal may have confessed to his psychiatrist that the pop singer plied him with wine and sleeping pills when he allegedly molested him, according to sources.

The boy has also hired Los Angeles attorney Larry Feldman, the same lawyer who represented the family of a 13-year-old boy who made similar allegations a decade ago, the sources said.

Also, according to my source, Jackson "” knowing some months ago that the boy and his family had serious complaints about his relationship with them "” tried to get rid of them.

"He bought them passports and planned to ship them off to somewhere in South America," a friend of the boy's family (a mother and siblings) told me. In fact, says this source, Jackson kept the family at Neverland for a period of time, hoping to convince them to drop their allegations by lavishing them with entertainment and further merriment.

Calls to Feldman and to the family's other attorney were not returned.

According to sources, the boy who made the allegations was a cancer patient whose "last wish" was to meet Jackson at a time that his friends and family feared his illness was worsening.

Jackson paid the family's medical bills and assisted them financially, even buying them a car and, according to sources, possibly a new house. When the boy's condition improved, according to a family friend, Jackson brought him to his Neverland Valley Ranch. That is when the alleged inappropriate contact between them is thought to have occurred.

At some point last spring, the boy's schoolmates "” apparently aware of his relationship with Jackson "” began taunting him in public. In one case, an incident of harassment is said to have occurred at a gas station, prompting the boy's mother to seek legal advice. The lawyer she met with advised sending the boy to a psychologist. According to my source, the psychologist had enough concerns to report his conversation to the police.

That would jibe with the idea proposed by the police and others that the family is not seeking civil damages at this time or anticipating a cash settlement similar to the one that happened 10 years ago.

Sadly, according to my source, the health condition of the boy involved is still in jeopardy "” a situation that should add to the melodrama of an already shocking and headline-making story.

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Wheee! MJ's on the lam!

He looks like Joan Crawford with smaller eyebrows.

I have just gotten caught up on this topic. Lex, I love your post about the pretty boy getting to bed down with Miss Pasty J. and the "fatter, plainer" kids having to bunk someplace else. Maybe in the kennel with the rest of the dogs!! The images created in that documentary of the young latino boy laying foppishly against Miss Pasty J. were soooo disturbing. There is something so troubling about pedophiles need for control. It's such an act of dominance against someone weaker. So predatory. I personally felt it was just a matter of time before Lady Perp struck again. We must acknowledge however that children are bought and sold every day. Sickening but true. Its just the "master" in this slave auction happens to be very high profile and an extremely easy target. The world has some very dark corners kids.

The boy pictured in Joel's post is the one I meant. I'm sure he's the one involved in the current lawsuit.

And those dark corners are no doubt illluminated by the whiteness of Miss J's face! She's so damned white you could literally use her as a flashlight.

As New Yorkers we are probably one of the most therapized populations on the planet, so to read Daphne Merkin's (yes, that is her real name) article on the gloved one and his tortured psyche, it at least makes him a bit more understandable- from this perspective. Not that his behavior is excusable, but at least one person's objective look at his oh-so-deeply-rooted issues.

Michael on the Couch

Something smells fishy in Neverland.

Read all about it here.

However, I do not believe that he is a child molester. If he is in fact proven without doubt to have done it, I will change my opinion. In the meantime, I for one believe that he would not sexually molest a kid, I believe he is a rare bird, and aside from his obvious lunacy, I also think he is good. Held up to the klieg light of mainstream American scrutiny, which ones of us would not be considered completely perverse, if judged by our appearances or the way we live? I go on instinct, and instincts can definitely be wrong. But it's a hell of a lot better than going on what's written in the news. Why not use one of the old early American tests of guilt or innocence, such as weighting him down with boulders and tossing him into a pond. If he sinks he's guilty. If having a seriously altered face, being artistic, preferring a fantasyland to real life and being eccentric as hell AND not wanting to admit to any of those things also means one is a childfucker, I suppose most of the people we know are guilty of it. There is such an effort to cover up the ones who are really doing it, such as all the priests, but of course, they are unknown, drab, uninteresting, farty old pedophiles. They won't look as interesting being gobbled up by the lions in the coliseum as will Michael Jackson. I would like to meet him very much.

Pulled this off the Internet Movie Database news section. **surprise** Michael is not the biological father of the older two children, as if we ever had any doubt!

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JACKSON'S CHILDREN INTERVIEWED BY WELFARE WORKERS
Troubled pop superstar Michael Jackson's two young children have been interviewed by welfare officers, after their mother Debbie Rowe expressed concerns about their safety. Prince Michael, six, and Paris, five, were quizzed by officials at their Beverly Hills, California home, which they share with the Thriller star, 45. The move comes after Rowe reportedly began legal proceedings against her former husband in a bid to win custody of the youngsters. Rowe has accused Jackson - who is currently facing multiple child abuse charges - of being an "unfit father" and denying the pair a "normal life". She also claims Jackson is not the biological father of either child and that they were conceived using artificial insemination. According to a Jackson family source, the children's nannies were also interviewed during the visit, at which the Bad superstar was present. Previously, the singer's parents Joe and Katherine Jackson had pledged to take responsibility for Prince Michael and Paris - and their baby brother Prince Michael II, whose mother is unknown - in the event of Jackson's imprisonment.

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Originally posted by romy and pilar:
There is such an effort to cover up the ones who are really doing it, such as all the priests, but of course, they are unknown, drab, uninteresting, farty old pedophiles. They won't look as interesting being gobbled up by the lions in the coliseum as will Michael Jackson.

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hmmmm... do not start me on that, I can go on for days

how unfortunate that all can not hide within the infinite folds of gods robes...
but then who knows who one would be crouching down next to... hello brother peter, they are accusing me of molesting a child whose parents tried to swindle me out of X amount of dollars...but we know for a fact that you molested 20 children in 3 different states, at least those are the ones who have come forward, how are you this fine day? oh, I am sorry thats BoBo humping you there... just ignore him...

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http://MetropolisNYC.com

feed the fire of your desire...

Okay, so why all the fuss over Janet Jackson exposing her boob during the Super Bowl halftime show??

Right after it happened, Janet said right away that it was an accident(a wardrobe malfunction, if you will). Yet a lot of people are calling for an investigation against poor Janet. Come on, guys, time out. This smacks like another PUBLIC LYNCHING!! Just because they're culturally divergent the Jacksons are being constantly picked on - be it Michael, LaToya, or Janet!!! Yipes! Let's get real here. Janet is INNOCENT. Does she need to call in the Nation of Islam too??
If anything, Justin Timberlake should be arrested for sexual assault (since it was he who actually tore off the right cup of Janet's bra).

BTW, the halftime show at this year's Superbowl was the best ever. It was sooo sexy. I actually got an erection watching it!! It was so cool! It totally rocked - thank you, Janet!!

the real "controversy":


did you hear that groban fellow singing on the f*ckin s*per b*wl??
i missed the darn show, in any case,

..."you raise me up to walk on stormy seas...
to be more than i can beee..."
mr. groban's current "hit" sounds nightmarish to me, as if a lobotomized barry manilow had unwisely crossed a crushingly generic christian pop sound with the theatrical,
soap-opera tones of "les miserables" ...
all this mess scored melodramatically, if randomly to a virtual template of the tune to "wind beneath my wings"...

eccentric king of pop mike jackson has apparently sold *4 million cds* world-wide this year for his greatest hits/really "smelly" duet with accused pee-er on underage girls, mr. r. kelly...
..."one more chance", indeed!

--yet shady cum-back kid mike j.'s sales spike pales next to the multi-million dollar f*ckin world-wide cd sales of the gormless mr. groban...

...come back, rick astley - all is forgiven!

Yikes, just imagine what the public outcry would have been at the Superbowl if it had been Michael instead of his sister dancing with Justin Timberlake. Justin would have grabbed Michael's crotch and RI-I-I-P we would all see Michael's penis.. How Cool! What Fun!!! (I wonder if he'd have an erection)?????

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/12/arts/music/12JACK.html?th

Apparently he is so strapped for funds he may default on a $70 million loan held by Bank of America.

"The loan is guaranteed by the Jackson music catalog, which would revert to the Bank of America if Mr. Jackson defaulted..."

So... the hideous BANK OF AMERICA could end up owning Michael Jackson. How sick is that???

and he owns all the Beatles catalog too...

I know.... What do you want to bet some law firm will end up owning the Beatles catalog?