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I guess sweeping the "Razzie Awards" wasn't enough for her. (an unprecidented 5 including "worst picture", "worst actress" and even "worst supporting actress")

Her new single "American Life" will be bombarding us soon. I got an advance copy a few weeks ago (but didn't bother to listen to it till today).
OH MY GOD!!!
It's "Swept Away: The Musical"!
And wait till you hear the (and I use the term loosly) rap!
quote:
I do yoga and pilates
and the room is full of hotties
and I check out all the bodies...

It goes downhill from there.
If she gets over with this one I give up.
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April 3, 2003
Madonna announced Tuesday that she was blocking the U.S. release of the video for her new single, "American Life," saying "I do not believe it is appropriate to air it at this time." She added, "Due to the volatile state of the world and out of sensitivity and respect to the armed forces, who I support and pray for, I do not want to risk offending anyone who might misinterpret the meaning of this video."

Too late. "American Life," had already made its debut on German television on Monday, after she defended it to MTV last week, saying, "It's about trying to get a message out that if we want peace and love in our life, then we have to make it happen in the world."
She is such a contrived bitch.... reason she pulled it was pure marketing money making bollocks, she can no longer afford to be controversial... shes been on such a loosing streak that she can't afford any more loss...
She never ever did have talent, she was always just clever. Clever at using everyone elses talent and absorbing it and claiming it as her own... that is genius... but it ain't talent. I guess she has less of a genius cotterie than she used to...
I can't stand her, never have liked her...sure there are some music/images that i have liked but its all 'not her' its like crediting a model for the designers dress...
I think it's fucking hilarious! images of war with "I do yoga and palates and the room is full of hotties and I check out all the bodies..." leave it to her to try to get PR out of wartime, what a fucking mess! I can't help it, its just so great how awful it is. I think we have finally seen the most desperate attempt for attention she could possibly try. And I thought having a baby was the last form of desperate P.R. I hope she looses a TON of money from this piece of poor pop poo!

And that rap.....can't wait til another rappin' blonde we know hears it... "Sorry hon you weren't the first"
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thanks but I'm sure she ripped someone else off, or a combination of us. however....

Im not one to ever bring this topic up but...If one more person had said to me , "Madonna's Drowned World show was so Click + Drag", I thought I was going to punch someone. and then there's the single blue eye in a monitor that opens the show......very familiar........

but just wait, something tells me a certin other persons next music video directorial effort may have a certin projection idea attached to it.
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--> "And that rap.....can't wait til another rappin' blonde we know hears it... "Sorry hon you weren't the first"

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I was thinking the EXACT same thing when I first heard it.

Speaking of, why ISN'T there a hopelessly devoted topic for Ms. Harry? I know a lot of the Mother crowd is friends with her... so not as star struck, but for us Midwest folk, seeing her at the Mothership party was a REAL treat.

It was also our biggest regret during our last trip up. In our determination to be subtle and casual, we missed meeting her Frown

XXXOOO
S
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She should have a topic of her very own, but between DH and the Fishsticks/AbFab etc. she is very featured. But feel free to start it. God knows we all have enough Jersey Tomato stories to go around. Just a little tidbit....She just shot the season finale of "Will and Grace". It's pretty major that they gave her the season finale.
I just saw Christina Aguleras(sp?) new video last night. It's quite beautiful at some moments. I'm starting to like her....oh no,

Not sure about the pins in her back, but the rest is pretty. I sort of liked her last video too (that "you are beautiful"song). It was directed by the same guy who did Madonnas current video mess and the new movie "Spun" that features Debbie as the lesbian neighbor who kicks the shit out of a guy in a 7/11.
Last week I watched on DVD of Madonna's much criticized remake/flop. Well, I am glad that I didn't pay any $$$ to see it (Vulgar Greek spent his money on the DVD), as it was just horrid...she wasn't that good acting as a bitch (surprisingly, right?), and she was just horrid when she has to flip to vulnerable on the island...totally unbelievable at all, and no sympathy for her character whatsoever. The only moment when I stopped my running negative commentary through the whole thing was when he fantasized her doing a number (oh that's right, she's an entertainer, NOT an actress). The real question is when she will give on such attempts at thespianism?

And I saw the original during the winter (oh that's right, it still is winter outside, even though we turned the clocks back), and it was amazing piece of cinema- male vs female, socialist vs capitalist, nature vs civilization, and the dynamic interplays in only the way a 70s Italian film can pull off...

The remake is just high gloss shit.
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did anyone read the Vanity Fair interview that came out to promote Swept Away? She basicly said that she couldn't get hubby Guy to ever sit through a Fellini movie. How he hated foreign movies , with subtitles. He only liked action movies or something like that. That might explain the end result of their little project together.

yuck!
I remember reading in some Madonna bio about her back-in-the-early-years admiration for Jessica Lange. I'm also a Lange fan (though "Frances" is her finest work, I also loved her as the bimbo in "King Kong" ... the scenes of her running around New York in that sequined gown is in my mind the ultimate personification of the damsel in distress heroine).

Madonna should simply NEVER make a film again. Ever. I mean, just forget it!!!
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Yea, well CHER is 12 years older than Madonna but unlike Madonna, Cher still looks FABULOUS - and her Farewell Tour is fab. And she doesn't have doughy skin like Madonna, either (and no huge space between her 2 front teeth) and she doesn't look emaciated like Madonna does... and Cher's still got back!!!!!!!

LOL.. BTW, Madonna is gonna be on at 10 o'clock tonight (EST) on MTV... providing that her heart doesn't give out first!!!
Remember you are talking about two children's mother.

How many albums, videos, world tours and kids did it take her to finally start looking 40-something?

I'm happy to see her gracefully showing her age.

Plus, EVERYONE knows that Cher is a Cyborg.

We got the album today. Sad to report that there are two songs WORSE than "American Life", but happy to report that she hasn't completely lost it. There are still some major hits on there.

XXXOOO
Satori

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I watched her tonight on MTV, giving a live performance for a very small crowd in the Times Square studio and in between taking questions from the audience and Carson Daly. She performed all new material from the new album, with the exception of the very last song, "Like A Prayer" where a gospel choir came out. I have to say I was stunned by how bad her voice still sounds live after all these years and all her efforts with lessons, etc. She was fine for the first couple of songs, but by the time she did "Like A Prayer" ... well, it was embarrassing honestly. I could sing better than that in my sleep.

That having been said, I can generally find lots of songs on her records that I like, with the exception of the last one where she looked like a cowboy. That only had a couple of good ones ("Music" and "What it Feels Like for a Girl"). The rest pretty much sucked.
Jimmy - you forgot .... I AM a nice person....
So there...

Nah Honestly, i think Madge has done some cracker songs and has had some boss images etc but... honestly to see her strumming a guitar like she is some new guitar chick was just REALLY bad... and her voice is really NOT good...Also, I do have a big problem with singers who have NO soul or real emotion faking-it... you know pretending that they really have a heart and soul when you can tell they are singing from the handbag (polari handbag that is!) ... as i said its the 'package' you are buying into ... if you didn't know she was "MADONNA" and just caught her on the telly you honestly wouldn't give her much props.... sorry our Jimmy.
I saw the MTV thing last night with Madonna and I too felt very embarrassed for her. I really liked Madonna a dozen years ago or so when she came across as being GLAMOROUS and sexy and downright Hot and Naughty! But now, she looks about as glamorous as a dish rag!! Poor Madonna, her star is fading fast...
A dead-on review, from of all places, The Washington Post

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.... As a lyricist, Madonna is insufferable, and her whine suffuses and suffocates "American Life." The stardom-as-mortal-burden idea is among the more insipid cliches out there, and it's especially absurd coming from Madonna, in part because she has so relentlessly, unabashedly pursued stardom for more than two decades and lived off the glamour-puss culture she now claims to revile.

It doesn't help that she's such a strangely clunky writer. But hey, if she can't find peace with a fortune and spare time for Pilates, that's her problem...



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18531-2003Apr22.html
I thought she was going to prove everyone wrong last night, but the more she talked, the more I got annoyed.

Especially when she started discounting all her old music as not really having much value.

(I'm paraphrasing) I can look back and see several good songs in there... but I don't really listen to my old work...and then went on to say her favorite dance song that she did was "Music."

So, she's telling us we should stop buying her albums and just concentrate on the music that Mirwais touches.

She's acting very self righteous. I feel enlightened and at the same time empty, so everyone else should have my values.

YET, I bet the ONLY reason she did that live show last night, was to preview the album on the day of release to try to offset all the bad reviews she knew she was getting.

She's coming across as a huge hypocrite. I don't think it is so much her age that is making her ugly I think it's what is coming out of her mouth.
when was the last time you heard that one? hehehheh. I have always been a fan - in fact, I consider my self to be incredibly madonna damaged - so heavily influenced by her earlier work - that I cant really criticize her without turning the mirror on myself (you know - affecting personas, trying to sing, attempting to bare your soul and finding only a sheet of ice under there). Having said that, I saw Cher's farwell tour the night before and, as a stage performer, Cher really carries the day. Madonna is simply not the open, giving entertainer (some might say the"rocker") Cher continues to be. Madonna seems still to be so unbelievably unable to just GIVE IT UP on stage. Only when she lapses into that babyvoice "friend of Rosie" act does anything genuine really resonate with me. It might just be a new perspective from me (and I used to absolutely ADORE anything she did), but everything she does looks like so much WORK. I know it must be nerveracking to present new songs to such a small crowd (remember - this is super-mega-uber-stadium rocking MADONNA!) but how long has she been doing this? When was the last time you saw her having fun onstage? I see glimpses of it, and those are the times when I think she's just brilliant.

Funny, when I m talking about Madonna I can feel like both critic and artist. I truely love so much of her music. She has at least 30 amazing songs. Each one more fun and interesting than the next. Whats shocking to me(re: what Zazoo/Satori said)is that she is so unbelievabley hard on herself. Can you imagine putting so many wonderful songs out there, so many hot videos, so many diverse showcases - and STILL pooh pooh it as representing a "less evolved version of myself". UNREAL! How jaded and completely self-judging and critical. No wonder she's not having any fun up there anymore.

on the art crit side, Madonna has used "pop culture" so brilliantly - she actually is art - having attained dizzying heights of self-objectification. As a drag queen, I always felt connected to her on that level. I also feel that its a fine line you walk when you turn yourself into a "thing". Only the most fabulous (and committed) of queens objectify themselves and still remember where they are, who they are and why they're there.

I think what Cintra Wilson calls the "grotesque crippling disease" of celebrity has taken a terrible toll on Madonna. I saw how visibly uncomfortable she was exposing her famous underbelly to such an intimate crowd. But I also admire her bravery for challenging herself to do just that - Also, hit or no, I think the new work is pretty cool.
Yes, it must be tough to that calculating and that greedy for attention. Don't get me wrong, she's put out stuff we all like. Especially the earlier music. But, come on. Her "humanity" is wearing thin. Everything she does, she does for profit. "Madonna" and "artist" are antonymous. She's a sham. Always has been. She takes credit for so much work that other people do. I think she's a bully.
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Jade,

Thanks so much for your post – it expresses a lot of what I have been thinking about on this topic this week, as we've all been – like it or not - swept away in Madonna's media blitz. I cannot think of any other entertainer today who'd be able to get, in the space of one week: the cover of People, huge features in the New York Times and USA Today, Today show, Regis & Kelly, Will & Grace, countless hours on MTV and VH1 (even recycled interviews that are years-old), Dateline special next week, not to mention 900 pages in W. She has commodified herself. But as she famously said on the cover of the New York Post in the 80s, when nude photos of her surfaced in Penthouse, "So what?"

In a way, it is sad that people who are much better singers and performers – like Cyndi Lauper and even Cher – could never hope to achieve such mass exposure. Maybe they wouldn't want to... Nevertheless, Madonna does SOMETHING for an awful lot of people.

Yes, she steals others' ideas and pawns them off as her own, yes she fucked over many kind-hearted folks who paved her way to success, yes she used her bellybutton and tits to sell records for years, yes she's now resorted to world politics to create a stir, yes her voice ain't that great, yes she's a megalomaniac, yes she cannot act, yes she's a hypocrite and does seem unaware of how contradictory it is to sing about "American Life" while carrying the new rainbow-hued very-limited-edition Louis Vuitton bag. But so what? I can't believe that a lot of folks, if they knew how to do it, wouldn't also be as exploitive to achieve untold fortune and fame. Doesn't make it right, per se, but...

The people who keep her in business, her fans, aren't stupid. (Though some may argue otherwise: since the Burning Up 12" I bought in 1984, I've snapped up every remix, every magazine cover, every concert program. I'm sure that does sound rather stupid!) But she's a guilty pleasure. There's something about the fantasy of who she is, who she thinks she is, and what she relates through her art that keeps my inner drag queen coming back for more. Her music, no matter how critically panned or acclaimed, is a fun escape for me. Might be off key, and her lyrics are not Shakespeare -- they're not even Sheryl Crow -- but she's entertainment. I really don't believe that with each new album, video, or magazine cover that she thinks she's fooled the masses. The point is, everyone knows that her real shtick is marketing, but that didn't keep me, and thousands like me, from lining up to purchase her new product, several songs from which, I really like.

You're right that her very apparent uneasiness onstage on MTV this week was unsettling to watch. It's the same whether she's in concert or in a theatre or on film. She does not "give it up" the way a lot of performers do, and Cher is a good example. Cyndi Lauper and Siouxsie Sioux, too. They really allow their audiences to connect with them. She does have this perverse need to continue putting herself out there, without ever really putting herself out there.

It's so fascinating how divisive she is, even now, 20 years on.
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Michael remind me to slap you when i see ya...
How can you be "yeah she's a cunt with limited talent... but so what shes fab" that kind of blinkered view an apathy is why crap happens..
I really think that you can't praise "shite" you can't lionize "arrogance with ignorance" you can't support someone who is totally as self serving as her.... Sure she has done SOME good stuff and SURE she has had some fab images... but its all to the detriment of those she walked on, stole from and fucked to get it.... can't support that one, sorry. I just find her so transparent it grates on me.... but superficiality sells...
and ignorance is bliss...
Shes old, its tired, NEXT
There you are Anna Nicole. Good girl. Does this mean our date is off? Wink

Her relevancy has always been debatable. All's I'm talking about is that in spite of all of her many shortcomings, Madonna still entertains me. Doesn't mean that I would want to be friends with her (though I did babysit Lourdes in a dream once...stopped by Madge's place once a day to feed little Lola, as I would to take care of a cat...) And I don't mean to say that I exactly respect and approve of the way she's gotten to where she is. But when she puts out a song that I can dance to, or shows up in a magazine in an amazing couture gown as if in a dream, I say, Sign Me Up.

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Madonna thinks...
"Americans are too obsessed with money and too obsessed with the way they look".

I can't believe she actually said this though. She's not that stupid. (Is she?)

And...
I was talking to a mutual friend of ours at "Magique" who had just been with her. I asked her why Madge was doing all this stupid promo stuff? (kind of unlike her) She said she was nervous about all the bad press the new record was getting.
BAH!
(I said whatever you do, DON'T tell her about "Magique"! -sorry Michael, I know you like her.)
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...at the end of the day she is a brillaint entertainer, period. What more do you want or expect from her? She is no Mother Theresa and probably will not be nominated for a Nobel Peace prize but so what, she looks good and makes great songs and I don't know about you but thats all I require from a "POP" singer.
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Alright then our Jimmy.... think of it this way... a clever dick steals your ideas and designs and presents a collection .... that collection (which is all YOUR ideas) is being hailed as 'wonderful' et al... yet you are not getting the $ nor the credit... then i go to you and say.."wow did you see Clever dick, his stuff is brilliant"... and then i say, "well its only friggin fashion"... She's in a business - abeit being a 'pop star' its a business and shes a crook. A clever one... who gets more credit than she should.
clump clump - will step off me soap box now... tar!
PS Michael we can still date!
I missed all the Will & Grace/Dateline/MTV/VH1 rah rah rah...sometimes I like my bubble. But it sounds like she's done a good job of distracting people from the atrocities of the American occupation of Iraq, and the upcoming U.S. takeover of the entire Middle East. No one else has done such a good job since the war started; I'm certain she'll be brunching with Bush soon, as he thanks her for doing her patriotic duty. Those two were made for each other. Look out, Laura!

I was supposed to work the STEAM party in Brooklyn last night where they were giving away, you guessed it, American Life! Unfortunately, I had a bug and wasn't able to shovel that shite to the people (how many showers would I have had to take to clean that off my conscience?). I've heard there are a few good songs on it, and from people whose taste I trust...so I'll get to it, I'm sure. I'd just rather spend my money on The Dixie Chicks. I don't know if their music is any better, but from what I've heard and all I've read about them this past month, that's an act that could sweep me away.

By the way, Anna Nicole, you got a date for Wed. night? Big Grin
I always wanted to be a self-sucker. Then I could take a Holiday and bring back all of those happy days. Instantly.

I've had my ups and downs with her, but I fully admit there was a time in my life when I absolutely LIVED for her. (during the Blonde Ambition era) That's not the case anymore, but hey she's popped my cherry over the years.

As a teenager back in Denver, Madonna's first album, released when I was in highschool, conjured up all my life-long fantasies of being a New Yorker with its whole underground club scene filled with fascinating, freaky people straight off the pages of Interview magazine (at the time a much better read). While "Holiday" and "Burning Up" and "Physical Attraction" were first happening, friends would come back from trips to New York with citings of Madonna, Grace Jones and others ... I so badly wanted to be a part of it all. I later turned against her for a while when her second, more pop/commercial album came out because -- although I loved "Like A Virgin" -- I thought she'd gone too mainstream and teeny bopper and so her whole cool New York club credibility was shot in my mind. Likewise I pretty much hated the True Blue/Barbara Mandrell hair period, though I appreciate it more now. But then the release of Desperately Seeking Susan and "Get Into the Groove" brought me straight back to her again, all those weird New York locales in the movie etc and I even took courage from her Susan character when I came to New York with nothing but a couple of suit cases and $90 in my pocket (okay, I had one close friend who had moved here first).

After that I forgot about her for a while, then came Blonde Ambition which completely blew me away. The stagewear, the songs, the production numbers, the "Vogue" video -- it was all too much. I was obsessed. At the time I thought it was hot that she took those vogueing queens off the piers and threw them in the face of middle America, though of course in retrospect it meant the death of that subculture more or less. Throughout the 90s there were ups and downs, but if for nothing else other than teen nostalgia (but there are other reasons) Madonna even now still qualifies for a place on my pin-up wall, alongside my other treasured icons like Grace Jones, Annie Lennox, Boy George, Bowie, the Stones, the Beatles, Tina Turner, Stevie, James Bond, the Supremes and all the rest.

But that new song American Life does suck. And of course I still think she's a cunt.
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whats gross to me is that M seems to "go through" things. She has often seemed very "locust-like" - devouring a cool image or an idea and then on to the next. She might as well leave shells of her old selves littered all over the landscape. Wait a minute - she has! While I dont doubt that she's "evolved" as she says, the image switches she displayed which first had great meaning to me (like when "dress you up" became, well, yes - barbara mandrell!) seemed to become like a casting off of something cheap and meaningless. One gets the impression that not only does she go through styles, but also stylists! Not only does she go through haircuts, but also hairdressers and maybe even friends. She's been a huge part of my "american life", but at some point (shorty after "Sex" - imagine that hahaha!), her "evolution" became something cold and horrible to me. The songs were still good (love secret and beautiful stranger!) but even after Ray of Light (which I felt was a big artistic breakthrough for her)she seemed to move on so quickly. I think she's extraordinarily self-critical, and admittedly so - but I dont think she understands the true toll that takes on a person.

Well, Im here to tell her! Again, it seems like she never truely "gives it up", never truely reveals all that she pretends too - because she cannot accept it! I think she gets in her own way - all the time. The focus is never really on the music, which is where you find her revealing so much of herself - She's always in a the position of trying to explain her work, which is possibly a consequence of her somewhat artless handling of most interviews, stage banter, and all the other junk that goes along with the music. After a while you have to wonder if she hasnt purposely put in herself in this situation. What annoys me is that she tries so hard to give everyone the impression that she is this totally open, soulful artist. I have no doubt that she wants to be, but - if the work is the music, it seems to me like she gets in the way of it. If the work of art is "her", then I think self-acceptance would have to happen before she could really bring that all together.

I think on some important levels she doesn't have much of an understanding of her own fabulousness.

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Those rotten "American Life"/'Che' posters are all over town, and hardly anyone can even be bothered to deface them--that's just how apathetic people's feelings are running toward her these days. But one person did put those funny 'anime' sticker-eyes over hers, and at -- I think -- 2nd av & 2nd St., someone wrote across her face YOU ARE NOT A REVOLUTION.

The revolutionary imagry on the cover & ad campaign for "American Life" is creepy, funny (in a laugh-at way), and sad. But if she had posed in such a way in 1986 or so, it wouldn't have been so hard to take seriously. She has this delusion of herself as a radical artist, but she's more like Debbie Reynolds than she is Cindy Sherman. At this point, at least.

And now that she's had kids and can't show her tits anymore, she's lost her two biggest selling points. Though I could also see her doing some here-I-am, droops-and-all nudie pix.
I don't get all this Madonna bashing, yes, she can be annoying but so can most pop stars, hell, Alanis Morrisette gets on my last nerve and let's not talk about Britney. The fact is Madonna was the first straight, white "Pop" star to openly embrace gays and blacks, whether she did it for the controversy or to cross over to that crowd (which I highly doubt since the crossover is usually vice versa) who cares. She did break new ground...granted she may sound tired now, though I think her new CD is not that bad, whatever, it's all starting to sound like a bunch of sour grapes to me.
I actually love the record. Its light years more fun (and focussed!) than "Music". I especially love the track 'Hollywood'. In one of the songs she even says something like "I need to learn to give it up" hahahah. maybe she's on to something there.

As a fan from the beginning, I have a love/hate relationship with her. You cant love everything a person does. I sure admire that she keeps putting her point of view out there. I was telling Lex and MM the other night that she should put on a free show for all her die-hard followers who've bought every blinking thing three times over from the beginning. then she could do a q & a and take us all out for cocktails.

I could talk all night about her. but I wont Smile
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Madonna Signs To Promote Gap

Pop superstar Madonna has agreed to a deal to become the new face of clothing giants The Gap. The Material Girl will join rapper Missy Elliott in a series of TV commercials for the American store. Although Gap have refused to confirm how much money Madonna will be paid for the ads, she picked up a staggering $6 million to promote cosmetic company Max Factor. She follows in the footsteps of a host of other stars including Dennis Hopper, Willie Nelson and Juliette Lewis - who have all appeared in Gap ads.

--World Entertainment News Ntwk
i know...sell out, period. she doesn't need the money, but i guess she wants to push her single just a bit more.

she does have a smart marketing sensibility though to her credit. mashing up holiday and her new "hit" hollywood is pretty cutting edge for a mainstream gap ad and definitely is something she culled from going out to dance clubs of late, and pulling missy elliot in for the hip hop groove was smart for broader appeal.

yawn.
Sadly, I have to agree with all on this. While my love of her music is unflagging, this is all just so tacky. I really can't believe that the Gap will see a $10 million turn around in sales thanks to these spots. And though there was a line around the block at the Gap's midtown flagship store of people wanting to buy these stupid new jeans on the morning after the commercial debuted...I think the spike in sales will be as fleeting as all of the summer movie "blockbusters" have been.
If she made out with "Messy" I would really be impressed!
That girl will do ANYTHING to get attention.

And speaking of the devil...
as I was typing this my wife just came in and handed me a note from M's old boyfriend. (the REAL love of her life -from Jellybean through Sean Penn) I guess he's out of jail now and wants to get together...
Cool.

And what do you mean "Old Tart" Anna Nicole?
What does that make ME?

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Yikes, talk about being totally Swept Away!!
I watched the MTV Awards last night and I must admit that Madonna, the old bitch, and her two young whores, Britney and Christina, absolutely stole the show. I am talking about the opening number when Britney and Christina come out dressed as hot & horny "virgin" brides (they are singing "Like A Virgin") and then the old fetish bitch Madonna comes out all in tight black and looking very FETISH like she is the top and both her young whores are the BOTTOMS. Talk about being and getting HOT. Yikes, I swear both Britney and Christina were absolutely fawning over Madonna. They looked HOPELESSLY DEVOTED to her - like they were willing to DIE for their Bitch Goddess.

I am willing to bet the shaky, wavering way Madonna was singing was probably because she had just gotten done sexually pleasuring both of them backstage before coming out. Hey, it was HOT!!!!
Yawnnnn is SO right...
The only thing i can give Madge props on is that ole rumor that she used to troll around Alphabet city in a limo pickin up boyz... now THAT I would applaud.... (and that fab story that David Blane told on radio that she used to go to his house and give her a bloweey and then he would ask her to leave! i know he's a wanker just I would LOVE to blow blane)....
I agree that this rates a great big yawn, yet as I surfed past MSNBC the following night, there was a whole panal of irate and indignant people hootiin' and hollerin' about how immoral it was. A woman with long blonde hair was so angry that Madonna had done this when she "has children at home...." Talk about making an issue out of nothing.
Well, so I am not alone...at work on Friday, everybody was talking about it, and I finally had had enough, and let them have an earful.

September always seems a time of passage and milestones for me. Twenty years ago, I started college fleeing the oppression of the manicured suburbs for the heart of downtown DC, 10 years ago this month I moved to NYC, and now I am matriculated again, and of course there is another 2 year milestone heading towards all of us next week. I digress, my point being that 20 years ago this month I walked into Melody Records on Connecticut Ave in DC and bought the Madonna album after hearing Holiday at Badlands- the "new" gay bar at the time, with its blues & greys, neon, and overzealous smoke machine made the orange/brown Lost & Found seem so 70s gay passe. Like we have all heard before, I was among many who was surprised she was caucasian. And I was the dutiful gay boy fan for years, fascinated with her shenanigans, loving her music, and reading everything I could about her, and then taking my niece to the concert 2 years ago, which she thought was a big yawn- she was more into the fact that everybody was jealous of her going.

People, the emperor has no clothes! This is not new, not shocking, and just a transparent marketing ploy to stimulate flagging sales on that tired new album Madonna spewed forth last spring, which also has nothing new on it. She kissed a girl 12 years ago in the Justify My Love video, and the girl was dressed as a boy. MTV banned the video, and I dutifully ran out and bought the video single for $5.99 which I played maybe 2-3 times, then tired of it (and I still have it), while Madonna laughed all the way to the bank. I bought American Life, and I like a couple of songs, but not worth the $14.99 I plopped down to get it. She has always been very shrewd and successful in her marketing strategies, and tuned into the zeitgeist, but this was too obvious in my opinion.

What we saw was human behavior, and it shouldn't be shocking, it was a kiss (and Tatu already did it, and better I may add). Though I am sure there are straight men across the nation jerking off to thoughts of Madonna and Britney lip-locked in a scissoring frenzy, but it is just not all that exciting anymore. Britney has had her 3 album pop princess arc, so she needs to literally pull a new rabbit out of hat or she will just fade away (ironically as Justin's stardom skyrockets); however, kissing Madonna is not the way to do that. Christina, well, she probably has kissed a woman before, and I think she went along with it because she has an album and a tour to promote, and I don't blame her for some reason. But Britney and Madonna- it just really was shameless showboating to lift their sagging careers and keep people talking, when all we really want to do is yawn.
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When will people wake up and see what crap she is doing these days.... anyone who is still 'into' Madonna is caught up in the hype the Kings New Clothes is right.... amazing spin doctoring...clever SHE IS... talented and iconoclast she ain't....


NEW YORK (AP) -- Listen up, Madonna fans. With her first children's book about to be published, the singer has recorded a special audio message for shoppers on Amazon.com.

"Have you ever heard of the `English Roses"? she says, referring to the book's title. "Here is what they are not: A box of chocolates. A football team. Flowers growing in the garden.

"`The English Roses' is the first of five stories I have written. It deals with the subject of envy and jealousy and how these emotions cause so much unnecessary suffering in our lives."

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