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I'm just exploring the new (to me) world of PCs, Windows, AOL, Myspace etc. etc.

If you've grown up MACs like I have (thanks to all the nerds I know like Chi Chi Valenti, Rob Roth, Jade Barbie... actually just about EVERYONE I KNOW)
well, it's hard to see why ANYONE would put up with that shit!

I'm sorry, Myspace is retarded!
AOL is retarded.
So is Windows.

Are people nuts?
Why is most of the world on PCs?
I really don't get it.
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I just mean that the "MySpace AOL mentality" is very PC and not MAC.
MySpace is total crap.
Hard to navigate, hard to understand and all ads!
It's slow and crashes constantly.
(As in PC)

Just as an example go to Daniel Nardicio's D-List.
It the same idea but SO easy to navigate and understand and it's a snap to design your own page.

D-List, of course, is small community and doesn't have 300 million people on it but I think that is the future.
I'm on MySpace because it helps me dig up performers in other parts of the country.

It's pretty bad though because if I have 1000 "friends" and I want to see which ones of them live in Florida, there is no wayy to performe that search.. There's no way to manage your friends at all. You can't alphabitze them or put them in any order.

If you were a promoter an wanted to invite local people to an event without pestering the rest of your international list there is no system to do so.

I still use it because so many people I need to meet are on it but it has serious flaws.
As for why most of the world uses PC's and Windows, Daddy, there is only one answer-- Business.
Corporations use it, and so the world follows blindly, without thinking twice, despite the fact that everything is done-- from my perspective anyway-- ass-backwards and takes twice as long. Sure, there was a time when things like creating spreadsheets on Excel and other business apps were developed for and worked somewhat better in Windows, but of course that time has long passed. Many people either don't own their own computers, or got their intro to them through the workplace, and so are stuck.

As far as MySpace, that's sooo last year Daddy. And if you think that's rotten, try Friendster. Still, I have re-connected with a great many lost contacts through MySpace, so there's something to be said for it, I guess. But I agree, it is developed for PC/Windows users wanking on their office or school computers when they were supposed to be working. Certainly, almost none of the music or videos people post were actually created on that clunky platform.

AOL, now that's another story. I have to laugh at those who use it. However, it's obvious what people like about it most-- those endless chatrooms. Never mind that it kills any possibility of learning how to utilize the internet properly and efficiently. People, I guess, feel "safer" within AOL's "village." Though, that safety, as is continually proven, is totally illusory. Bah!

But just the thought of using a "fake" iTunes, a PC clone of Photoshop, an imitation music writing program boggles my mind. I mean, why bother?
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I gagging how many people I know are on MySpace
(I know you told me this a year ago Anna Nicole!)
I look at my friends and have to laugh...
Pat Field, Diamanda Galas, Sister Codie Ravioli & Connie Girl, Debbie Harry & Chris stein, Kevin Aviance, Jackie Beat...
seven, Miss Understood, Hattie Hathaway, ANNA NICOLE...

And now that I have about 50 friends (and growing) what the hell do I do with them?
Seven u have to link to me!! I didn't know you were on there.
I think MySpace is a shitty system full of wackos but it is also just like any large club (crobar) u can still find some interest there if u be selective.
As for Macs V PC. Hatches is right. In the muggle world we all use PC unless u r in graphics/image based industry otherwise its PC all the way.
Myspace has been great for me I have found so many dear ole chums from Blighty on there. And some shags along the way- heh heh.
Although my rule is .. i never add anyone as a friend unless i really know em.
I've been adding everyone but so far it's only been people that I know.

Now I'm thinking that I should add ONLY freaky looking people and not pollute my friends list with muggles.

This whole thing reminds me of collecting baseball cards. You can't do anything with them, just look at them but it's kind of fun. You get all excited when you add someone cool.

Yesterday I added Marti Domination & Twinkle!
(and yes, I know you already had them Hatches!)
I thought this recent bit from
PC World's "25 WORST WEB SITES" summed up alot of the interface problems and general clunkiness etc. that JD was referring to with MySpace. And this was a non-Mac magazine commenting..

Worst Sites #1

Yes, we know. With more than 90 million users, MySpace is now more popular than Elvis, "American Idol," and ice cream. But the Web's most visited destination is also its most poorly designed and counterproductive.

The ease with which anyone of any age can create a page, upload photos, share deeply personal details of their lives, and make new "friends" quickly turned MySpace into a one-stop shopping mall for online predators. That in turn has made the site an easy target for politicians who pander for votes by playing on parental fears. In an era when the basic tenets of the Net are under attack by both Ma Bell and Uncle Sam, MySpace is a headache we don't need.

But let's put all that aside for a moment. Graphically, many MySpace pages look like a teenager's bedroom after a tornado--a swirl of clashing backgrounds, boxes stacked inside other boxes, massive photos, and sonic disturbance. Try loading a few of those pages at once and watch what happens to your CPU. Watch out for spyware, too, since it turns out that MySpace has become a popular distribution vector for drive-by downloads and other exploits...

Full article (and the other 24 sites at)

Well, it's been a couple of months now and going to MySpace has become a part of my life.
I get messages all day long.
DJs, bands, prostitutes, promoters...
It's a nightmare!

I do get messages from from long lost friends that are gorgeous sometimes though. Yesterday Frankie Knuckles saw my page and wrote. He was online and we chatted for a while. This was nice because he doesn't live in New York any more and we never see each other. We had a good giggle. And I just got a note from Dean Johnson who wrote to tell me that I was on his top page. I had to point out that I had more friends than him.
At this writing I have 231 friends.
They are pretty much all people I know and like. The few exceptions are people I know and don't like but it is much easier to approve them than explain to them why I don't like them. There are some people that are fans and even though I don't know them they seem nice.
I look at all of their little pictures and think if they were all at a party it would be totally wacky.
Actually, it would be totally "Jackie".
Prostitutes how dare you.... that was ME! LOL

I must say I do enjoy the gettin the ole waggons in a circle aspect of that ole trollin' site.... it's been good to me (wink wink). I only add people I truly know as my friends and most of them aren't even in NYC... so it's cute to hear from them all again... my ole ole ole fella from WAY back in the days just sent me a note he's finally on...for his sin's his son had to do his site for him!! LOL Now that's when u know u be old! I was just laughin to meself as he's new to the site and only has a few chums on there now...he is in the music biz and was a good pal of Bob Marleys etc ... so u see his friends are all the Marley kids, these real rootsy dread icons.. then in the middle of it all ME and my lardy arse.. it looks so funny. Me in the middle of the marleys .. just the way i likes it! But tis nice to go on peoples pages an see who their mates are... it says allot!!!
There were no computers when I was a teen, so I am making up for my lost teen years on the internet by creating a Myspace page. And yes, I do like collecting the baseball card type friends there. It gives me something to look at.
I just want to know, How does someone get 10,000 friends on their list? I can't get 200, and even now some are dropping off my list, just disappearing from my page. Weird, where did they go? They could have left their baseball card picture, they didn't have to take their pic with them.
A friend of mine has an actually program to select people and ask them to be his friends... he has reason behind this madness - He's part of a Lesbian/Gay/TS/TV group and he likes to spread the mtgs messages on bulletin so I guess that makes sense.
I have a rule to only ever add people I actually know.
I love looking at people friends cos its often their shags too.... quite interesting... I also love it that Adam Goldstone is on there even in death he's a force! And what a minx! All those cutie chicks sending him messages still... love it!
If you want to know what I think about Myspace read the blog entries on 'my space.' It is a nonplace built out of endless paradoxes, mental switchbacks and unsubtle commodification. But it is a real phenomenon. You are all one step closer to being cyborgs.

And who cares how many friends you get -that is just part of the whole 'people are social capital' perversion. I was offered a program that would scoop up thousands of 'friends' off myspace in one cycle. One of the early adapters of myspace said he got up to 10,000 'friends' by offering all sorts of free stuff -cyberschwag- in bulletins. The basic thing I get off on is you are being exceedingly social without being physically social at all. Why didn't someone invent this 20 years ago when I really needed it?
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Well, it's been a couple of months now and I have to say the whole MySpace thing has been VERY interesting to say the least.

Being a person who is easily Google-ed I thought that I had heard from every single person that I have ever known... ever.
MySpace is amazing for that. Ghosts from your past greet you every day.
(like this message that I got today)
We met when we were both go go dancing at the odussy 2000 in brooklyn.

I was speechless.

Right now I have about 300 friends.
I deny about 30 a day!
People with something to sell -bands, records, parties, political agendas...
people I have never -or will ever want to meet.

Just being a DJ @ Crobar brings me about a thousand potential new "friends" a month.
What do they want?
I don't get it.
I guess having a DJ as your "friend" tells the world what kind of music you listen to.
Wait a minute...
That's it!
Your MySpace friends tell the world who you are.
It used to be tee shirts told the world who you were.
Now it's MySpace.
Now I get it.
Thaks for the add, Daddy.

I couldn't figure out why myspce was so popular either, but my at horrid day job, they wanted me to create a myspce site for the wretched institution. So I created a ludicrous myspace identity called "Sweet-Bologna-Salad" - just to explore and see what it is all about - and I started finding people that I know, and then seeing who was in their friends list - and through that I have found a bunch of people that I love (or fucked) and am back in touch with. And now I admit that I am addicted to asking famous people to be my friend, but besides you, Hattie and Tangella among a few others, I have not had much luck.

I agree it is a spyware ladden monstrosity of a 8mph SUV on the info-super hi-way. But after a couple of back & forth crashing myspace emails telephone numbers are exchanged.

My Athens, Ga friends say that if one has a band, it is mandatory to have a myspace.

Did anyone see that article in NYT a couple of weeks ago a while back about Satchi & Satchi's site that is the artists' must have myspace imitator? Hattie is right it is all about business. I think that these mywebsite things are going to become super segmented (and super demented) I can't wait for
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