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Madonna in facelift riddle
By Alison Boshoff, Daily Mail
This is LONDON 11/02/04 - Showbiz news section

By now, of course, we should have wearied of Madonna's endless capacity for re-invention. What a clichÈ the remaking of her image has become as, year after year, she has struggled to keep the public intrigued.

But for all that there was something shockingly different about her appearance at the Grammy awards on Sunday night. This time, it wasn't her usual gimmicky splash of fancy dress (a flashed breast, a pretend punk ensemble). Nor was it as vulgar as the 'lesbian' show which she put on with Britney Spears at the MTV awards last year.

Instead, Madonna appeared to be showing off (whisper it) a new face. Well that, at least, is what music industry gossips have insisted since Christmas, when, it is said, she visited a plastic surgeon in Los Angeles and had a 'very subtle and high quality' facelift.

Her appearance at the Grammys was the first chance for everyone outside her immediate circle to judge if the stories could possibly be true.

At 45, many of the well-heeled women in LA are on their third or fourth procedures, so there would be nothing outlandish, in Hollywood terms, about Madonna getting her face tweaked. And talk of her using Botox injections has been widespread for some years now. Sources in New York even claim to have spotted Madonna in town carrying a bag marked The Brandt Clinic, famed for its Botoxing.

Last year, it emerged that she'd been having non- surgical beauty serums blasted into her skin at a small salon in Hampstead, North London, for £350 a time. She is also a fan of Linda Meredith's Crystal Clear Oxygen Facials and Dr Hauschka creams.

But a surgical facelift? Would Madge have gone that far to keep up with today's divas?

Surely she cannot hope to catch glorious, golden Beyonce, only 22, whose single Crazy In Love outsold Madonna's effort, Hollywood, last year by a ratio of two to one, and who walked away on Sunday with five awards, the acknowledged queen of this year's event.

Certainly, it appeared that Madonna had conceded defeat to the new generation of upstarts when she launched herself as a children's author last summer, all hornrimmed glasses and demure frock.

And with a flop album (American Life), two flop singles (American Life, Hollywood), a flop film (Swept Away) and a particularly embarrassing ad campaign under her belt (Gap), it appeared she was finally ready to leave the stage for a new generation of pop stars.

On the evidence of the Grammys, though, the truth is very different. It must be said that under the lights at the Staples Centre, the age gap was not at all apparent: Madonna looked every bit as good as the young pretenders.

There was no hint of sag about her jowls, nor a line on her neck. Where most 45-year-olds might expect to find the unwelcome beginnings of a double chin, Madonna had the defined jawline of her friend Gwyneth Paltrow, who is a decade her junior.

Ozzy Osbourne's wife, Sharon, is firmly in the camp which believes that Madonna's seraphic new image is down to some kind of medical intervention.

Never one to call a spade a garden implement, she gasped: 'I tell you what, I went into shock at Madonna's new head. See, she's got that Botox in that forehead. Oh, Madonna I know what you've been doing! There's not one line on that bloody head!'

I asked Mr Aposotolos Gaitanis, plastic surgeon at the Harley Cosmetic Clinic in London's Harley Street, for his opinion. 'Madonna has a very well-proportioned face, with high cheekbones, a high forehead and a well-defined jawline,' he said. 'I suspect she has been enhanced by cosmetic surgery.

'Her jawline looks less "soft" and better defined than in some earlier pictures. This may have been done with a "mini lift", which involves the tightening of over-relaxed facial muscles and the removal of excess skin.'

And then there was the mystery of Madonna's cat-like eyes - with no hint of crinkle around them. Poor Geri Halliwell, who is 14 years younger than Madonna, looked more wrinkly than she did.

Back to Mr Gaitanis. 'A woman of 45 would usually have loose skin around this area.

'Madonna's top eyelids appear to have no excess skin whatsoever. This could be due to an eyelift or brow lift, which involves the skin of the brow being pulled and muscles beneath tightened by keyhole surgery.

'Madonna's complexion is also excellent. She obviously looks after her skin, and she may even have had a glycolic peel to remove dull cells and reveal her healthy, radiant skin.

A peel may also account for the fact that she does not seem to have any lines around her mouth, which is unusual for a woman of her age. Or she may have had them filled.'

But when asked about the possibility of plastic surgery, Madonna's spokeswoman, Barbara Charone, was perfectly clear on the subject yesterday. 'Absolutely not!' she said. 'She's not had anything done.'

Such a vehement denial seems at odds with a sentiment Madonna herself expressed in September. ' I am certainly not against plastic surgery,' she said. ' However, I am absolutely against having to discuss it.'

More recently, however, she was more dismissive, saying that her new-found Kabbalah spirituality allowed her to focus more on the virtues of infinite compassion and unconditional kindness than the undignified scramble to be the fairest of them all.

'Every once in a while I see a little wrinkle on my face and I go "Bummer". But I'm not going to get caught up in thinking you have to stay eternally young. I am what I am. And I don't like the idea of someone putting you to sleep then taking knives to you.'

She even spoofed the idea of surgical intervention in her Hollywood video, in which she was shown pretending to have Botox injections.

It would surely be too brazen then - even for Madonna - to go back on her word and have her face done. Wouldn't it?

The Christmas season is the perfect time
to fit in a visit to the plastic
surgeon. We asked a source at a Los Angeles
surgery to rate this winter's round
of improvements:

Excellent: Madonna
"Work is subtle and high quality"

Good: Sarah Jessica Parker
"Face youthful and less equine
with the nose thinning."

Bad: Kylie
"Drawn face, and the nose/cheek balance
is a bit off"

Actually, I even paid The "Evil One" a compliment. When she was on I yelled to The Empress in the kitchen. "Come look. You have to see 'Belzie', she actually looks good. Not so grizzled". (Of course The Empress wouldn't take the long walk from the kitchen to actually look).
"Who cares".
I kept wondering why she looked so good. I never even thought it had to be surge.
(I never said I was smart)
It's about time too, she looked a bit craggy over the past years, especially in Swept Away- body was amazing- no body fat in that skimpy black bikini, but her face was showed that time was not waiting for her. She looks freshened up, and better than Barbra's (lesson learned here, don't wait till you sixty to start thinking about surgery- small things over time is the best way to do it).
OK, this is definitely pushing the borderline, even for me. So $$$. Tickets on sale on Monday, 3/29. From today's Daily News:

At $300, Madonna is no cheap date

Is Madonna pushing her fans over the budget line?

The Material Girl's summer "re-Invention" tour will be her most expensive show ever, with tickets costing up to $300 each.

"Madonna is charging $300 for the top seats and $175 for so-so seats," says our snitch. "There are a couple of hundred that are cheaper, but more than 60% of the arena is at insanely expensive prices."

And the payoff?

"Madonna is netting a cool $100 million for three months of concert dates," says the source, adding the total will come from tickets, merchandise and a TV special of the tour.

However, word is that Mrs. Guy Ritchie will be giving fans their money's worth.

Says our spy: "Madonna is working like she never has before. She is doing several greatest hits, and she has been rehearsing with dancers for up to 18 hours a day to make this her best show yet."

The tour comes to Madison Square Garden on June 16-17.

Madonna's rep, Liz Rosenberg, told us: "The tickets are scaled from $300 to $90. This is pretty much in line with other major superstar shows."

Rosenberg added that the clothes in the show will be provided by Karl Lagerfeld for Chanel, and Christian LaCroix.

Shady, huh, Daddy?
She's getting is SO obvious.
I wish the bitch would just roll around in her money and save the spotlight and time for real talent.
I mean Kaballah, gap add, childrens books?
So SOOO SO sick of her.
And I think her work stinks, lately.
She should get a clue from real heroes like Marlene or Josephine.
It amazes me that a person with her money and power doesnt want to make a bigger influence on the positive manifestations in the world, like human rights and awareness...
Praying for Grace.
Esspecially by her age!
From "Pop Bitch"...

"Celebrity surgery updateNow Botox and trout pouts have been adopted by suburbia celebrities have moved on to something far more flattering.
Ever wondered how Kylie and Dannii got knife-sharp cheekbones in their 30s? Juvaderm,a synthetic collagen-like substance can be injected into the cheeks to give that
perfect sculpted look.
Another use for Juvaderm is to firm up ageing chins and jawlines. Now we think of it,
Madonna's chin is suddenly looking very
pointed and perky..."

I want some.
Really enjoyed this article in todays Independent newspaper
Here's a snippet
Queen of the comeback
Icon, lover, mother, mogul: Madonna has done them all and, along the way, defined stardom. As she reinvents herself again (on stage, naturally), Nick Duerden sifts her greatest hits and misses
24 May 2004

Some time later this evening, Madonna will walk out on to a Los Angeles stage, clad only in Chanel and essence of kabbalah, for the first of what promises to be the most extravagant series of shows she has yet undertaken. Given that all pop stars of global appeal invest much of their neuroses in the eternal need to come back bigger-better-more, this isn't a particularly surprising boast, but given that this is Madonna - the Queen of Pop, lest we forget - we should take the claim seriously. As, presumably, should the British fans who have forked out up to £150 for the privilege of seeing the show when it reaches these shores later this summer.

She's called it the Reinvention Tour, and to suggest that it will be lively is a little like suggesting that Everest is a tallish mountain with some snow on top. According to a mysteriously unidentified source (but let's take a stab in the dark and guess that it's someone on her payroll), the show "will make people's hair stand on end. Madonna has pulled out all the stops to make it her most controversial yet. The concerts are going to cause a stir on the same level as her Sex book and the Erotica album."

The tour's production is massive, costing more than £1m to stage. It will feature Rolling Stones-style pyrotechnics and the kind of special effects not normally seen outside a Texas penitentiary: at one point, Madonna will be strapped into an electric chair that will, we are told, "frazzle" her.

Presumably she won't die, because there's more. Her single "American Life" will be re-worked into an anti-war anthem, with images of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq being shot to pieces. In her rendition of John Lennon's "Imagine", she will spontaneously break down in tears in front of pictures of starving children. Every night.

If this all sounds a little too Michael Jackson, fear not. This is Madonna, after all, and there will be lots of bare flesh and bad language. She'll be indulging in some lesbian sex because - well, why the hell not? And for the climax, she will rise from the dead, something her namesake never managed.
Now, now. Madge has *real problems*:

Terror threat: We'll kill Madonna

Freaked out ... Madge

The Sun

MADONNA has axed three gigs in Israel "” after terrorists threatened to kill her and her kids.

The singer was terrified by a blitz of poison-pen letters.

Madge "freaked out" when she learned of a terrorist plot to kill her two young children if she performed in Israel.

She first planned to defy the extremists but cancelled after the unnamed Palestinian group mentioned details about Lourdes, seven, and three-year-old Rocco in a series of threatening letters.

A source said: "The notes were unbelievably scary. Madonna is a strong woman but she freaked out when her kids were mentioned.

"At first she was prepared to go on stage anyway and hire extra security.

"But she was not ready to take chances with her kids "” they are her whole world."

The threats were sent to the singer's offices in Los Angeles.

They became more frightening as they displayed in-depth knowledge of the star's closest aides.

The source added: "It became clear that these people were not messing around "” they even knew intimate details like who her personal staff are.

"She thought she was being targeted because of her Jewish Kabbalah religion. But this group were threatening her because she represents many things they hate about the West."

Madonna, married to Brit film director GUY RITCHIE, has not performed in Israel since her 1993 Girlie Show.

She had booked three dates in September at the Tel Aviv stadium "” including a televised concert on September 11 to mark the third anniversary of al-Qaeda's attacks on America.

Madonna's people last night insisted the Israel leg of her Re-Invention tour has been cancelled because the singer wants to concentrate on Europe.

But insiders say nothing except this security alert would have stopped her travelling to Tel Aviv.
Suprised that this isn't in mainstream media.. but I guess ET wouldn't get to talk to her on tour if they did do a feature on it! Urgh the media!!
MAY 24--On the eve of Madonna's launch of her "shocking" new tour, the singer has quietly settled a federal lawsuit that accused her of ripping off the work of an acclaimed photographer. Details of the financial settlement are confidential and Madonna acknowledged no wrongdoing in her liberal appropriation of the images of the late French photographer Guy Bourdin. Last September, Bourdin's son Samuel filed a federal copyright lawsuit against Madonna, claiming that her video for the song "Hollywood" was a blatant visual theft job of his father's racy images. "It's one thing to draw inspiration; it's quite another to simply plagiarize the heart and soul of my father's work," Bourdin said at the time. Included in Bourdin's federal complaint were side-by-side comparisons of his father's work with images with stills from the "Hollywood" video. Bourdin's lawyer, John Koegel, said the parties reached a "very, very successful settlement," adding that terms of the deal did not allow him to discuss exact dollar amounts. Below you'll find the stipulation and order of dismissal signed earlier this month by Judge Lewis A. Kaplan. (2 pages)more at

Maybe all the others COUNTLESS whom she has stolen from should do a class action?
Madonna Has Changed Her Name!!!

Just came across this on the internet. Madonna has changed her name from Madonna to Esther. OMG, talk about making a giant cultural leap.. Isn't ANYTHING sacred anymore??

Yikes, all this name-changing going on has me thinking seriously about changing the name of my penis!!!

Anyway, here's the news piece published today in the Houston Chronicle

June 17, 2004, 9:41AM

For `Esther,' `Madonna' is immaterial
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone has a message for the world: "Call me Esther."

Madonna, after all, isn't exactly kosher if you're into Kabbalah. So the Material Girl has claimed the Hebrew name of Esther.

This announcement comes in the middle of her Re-Invention tour and just days before the release of her third children's book. Her latest, Yakov and the Seven Thieves (Callaway, $19.95), hits bookstores on Monday.

In an interview to air Friday night on ABC's 20/20, Madonna/Esther talks about her faith, adding that although she was named after her mother (who died when she was young), the superstar isn't dishonoring her memory with the name change.

"I wanted to attach myself to the energy of a different name," she says in the interview.

Plenty of other celebrities have tried the same thing. Some name changes have worked. Others failed.

· Prince: In a dispute with a record company over ownership rights to his songs, Prince changed his name to an icon (a fusion of the symbols for male and female). When that didn't bring enough attention, he became "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince" and then later, just "The Artist."

Eventually Prince embraced his birth name, but not before most people wondered if he'd lost his mind.

· P Diddy. Puff Daddy. Puffy Combs: No matter how well the hip-hop impresario does on Broadway, or regardless of how many marathons he runs, if Sean Combs changes his name one mo' time, fans likely will revolt. Choose a name. And stick to it.

· Muhammad Ali: When the world heavyweight boxing champ converted to Islam and ditched Cassius Clay, it was a stunning political and social statement.
JEEEEEEZZZZUUUS... er... maybe not.

O.K. We are not refiling all our CDs and records for this. Lord (er..) someone knows we're probably not going to be buying anything that Yentil... I mean Esther puts out.

I so glad we threw that party when we did... I mean I don't think "All Esther. Only Esther." would have brought in the same packed crowd.

What's next? Are we going to have to all embrace Miss Understood's new "Good Catholic Girl." persona?


She better get busy on Google, because another Born-Agin has copped the name:

Maybe she'll start recording hymns too.

Not to mention this very groovy model has swiped the URL!

...who breaks down the name for us all to truly gag over:

"E" is for the EXAMPLE to others, to more than just her peers;
a life dedicated, hard-working, and of overcoming one's fears."

Etc. The new Esther has been majorly one-upped here in the banality department.

"S" is for the STAR she is; and not just one of the night;
her beauty and intelligence, a shining beacon of light."

And on her resume, something to make the Artist Formerly Known As Madonna green with envy:

~ Porno for Pyros back-up dancer, SF
~ Jane's Addiction back-up dancer, SF
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Say what you will about poor ticket sales and deep discounts, but Madoo-doo is doing alright compared to many this summer.

From MTV:
Lollapalooza Canceled; Organizers Cite Poor Ticket Sales
06.22.2004 12:51 AM EDT

Three weeks prior to kickoff, Lollapalooza has been canceled.

Organizers cited poor ticket sales as the reason the 31-date, 16-city trek was called off. This year's lineup was set to include Morrissey, Sonic Youth, PJ Harvey, the Flaming Lips and the String Cheese Incident (see "Lollapalooza Adds Danger Mouse, Von Bondies; Dates Unveiled").

"The sadness upon hearing about the dismantlement of our tour has quickly turned to anger," read a statement from Lollapalooza co-founder Perry Farrell. "To watch something that you put so many hours of love and time into set ablaze sets my pride on fire. But, like the Phoenix, we still intend to rise. Our campaign will continue for the musicians, the artists, and all those attempting to change the world. Our voices will be heard."

The decision to scrap Lollapalooza was made Monday evening (June 21), when organizers and promoters realized they stood to lose several million dollars. In all markets except New York, advance ticket sales were below estimates.

"On the average, the losses, had ticket sales not dramatically picked up "” which they showed no indication of doing "” the people involved faced losses in the mid-to-high six figures on a per-show basis," said the William Morris Agency's Marc Geiger, another Lollapalooza co-founder.

Fans who purchased tickets will be given refunds.

Geiger said Lollapalooza's plight is indicative of a summer touring season on the slide.

"Lollapalooza is not alone in this," he said. "Everyone from the Dead to Dave Matthews to Norah Jones is suffering. There's not one explanation for this. It might be that ticket prices are too high, which doesn't account for Lollapalooza, because our tickets were priced between $15 and $25. Maybe it's the sundry add-ons [like service charges] that up the cost? Maybe gas prices are too high? Just like the record industry is suffering, the concert business is not exempt.

"After people get through this summer season," he added, "there's going to be a lot of fixing that needs to be done in the concert industry."

Early on in its 13-year history, Lollapalooza built a reputation for eclectic lineups, but as the years wore on it became more well known for having trouble getting off the ground (see "Perry Hits Lollapasnooza Button: Tour Sleeps Another Year"). After 1997's outing with Korn, Tool and Snoop Dogg, the tour lied dormant until last year, when it returned with a lineup that featured Jane's Addiction, Queens of the Stone Age and Audioslave (see "Jane's Addiction Headline But Audioslave Steal Show At Lollapalooza Launch").

"”Joe D'Angelo

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Daddy, it was DeNiro playing the role of Lew Cipher. Messy Bonnie Raitt would have caught on to that right away.

La Madison, the concert industry has faltered because of marketing that is no longer targeted enough. Simply putting tickets up on line at Ticketron etc. won't work any longer in a market that has become super-saturated with touring shows. The shows themselves have run up against a ceiling of extravagant overhead costs. And mostly it is the mid-level productions that can't make it leaving those at the very top i.e. Estheronna and more indy gig-ers who can pull off their shows. If you think about trying to produce at a union house forget it, besides the rent for Madison Sq. you gotta foot the bill for union labor which several years ago began at $75,000 for one night! That feeds the bloated ticket price -you can't perform at that arena and charge lower than $50 for the bad seats. For years music giggin has been one of the harshest commercial environments there is. Add to this brew promoters like John Sher who for the last incarnation of 'Woodstock' engineered a scenario where a hundred thousand young people were kept in a fenced in area for three days of ninty degree plus weather while he sold them $6 bottles of water out of what could be nothing other than sheer cynicism. Maybe people should just get back to emphasizing the music instead of the spectacle, commerce, junk-culture, and fandomhysteria.
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Madonna... I mean Esther is in The Holy Land.
ESTHER - the pop star Madonna - briefly turned her back on the material world yesterday, at the beginning of a five-day pilgrimage to Israel to practise her new-found faith in Jewish mysticism. In a trip welcomed by Israel's tourist industry, but rejected by some scholars of Kabbalah, the pop star said she is serious about her belief and irritated by accusations that her faith is nothing more than a celebrity fad.

Wouldn't it be horrible if they beheaded her?
I mean like if the terrorists got her and beheaded her.
Wouldn't it be awful if The Terrorists were lurking on The Motherboards and read this post and got the idea to behead her?
I hope that doesn't happen.


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