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GWYNETH AND STELLA PLAY MADONNA'S GAME

MADONNA was visibly shocked last night when faced with a large screen tribute from her friends Stella McCartney and Gwyneth Paltrow. Dressed in some of the pop queen's more outlandish and memorable outfits - Stella in a Material Girl dress and Gwyneth in a conical bra and basque - the pair hammed it up to pay tribute to her as she was inducted into the first UK Music Hall of Fame in the Hackney Empire. The public has chosen one act to represent each decade since the Fifties as part of a Channel 4 series, which saw Robbie Williams represent the Nineties, Michael Jackson the Eighties, Queen the Seventies, the Rolling Stones the Sixties and Sir Cliff Richard the Fifties. Madonna, along with the likes of Bob Marley, Elvis Presley, U2 and the Beatles, was made an honorary member. "If someone had told me while I was a little girl growing up in mid-west America that one day I'd be married to a Brit, living in England and inducted into the UK Hall of Fame, I would have said: 'Bollocks to that'." (November 12 2004, AM)
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It takes a very talented actor to play a man who is a drag queen/transgender. Did anyone see "Soldier's Girl"? The actor who played Calpernia Addams, Lee Pace, was excellent. Having a WOMAN play Candy is just so banal.
They really should pick a man.

http://www.calpernia.com/soldiersgirl/

http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/product_page.do?episodeid=116815&include=06production_notes.inc&seriesid=0

Some stuff about Lee Pace preparing to play the TG Calpernia.
Agreed. What a disservice to Candy. Madonna should NEVER, EVER, EVER act in another movie again. Like, ever! I think she's entertaining for music videos and concerts but that's pretty much it. (exceptions: Desperately Seeking Susan, Truth or Dare, Evita and that bit part in Dick Tracy)

And agreed it would have to be a very special woman to play a transgender (recalling the disaster that was Raquel Welch as Myra Breckenridge -- not again!). In this day and age there's no reason not to cast a talented man or trannie. Sherry Vine anyone?
Sorry, but movies were always her ultimate goal.
(well, at least in 1983 they were). She used to tell me that music was just a stepping stone to Hollywood. She wanted to "be" Jessica Lange but was going to "be" Tina Marie to get there.
("Tina Marie" -Remember this was in 1983)
Sorry, but she wants this bad. (poor thing)
We haven't seen the last Madonna movie by far. I think she would even marry a film director to get in a...
wait a minute.
She did.
OMG
I just read it and I'm totally stunned. I know it's a children's book but...

Well, Anyway, here's my review:
If you loved her in "Swept Away" this book is for you.

But in other news, I just found this on Gawker.com
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From an article on Area, the post-Studio 54 club on Hudson Street that, in its heydey (1983-1987), was frequented by artist Andy Warhol, singer Boy George, the "brat pack" actors, writer Jay McInerney, and an assortment of artists, musicians, and NYC party people: [DJ Johnny Dynell:] "One summer night the room was really packed, and I noticed a sudden commotion on the floor. I ran down from the DJ booth to see what was happening. This guy had had a heart attack, and was just lying there. My first reaction was to stop the music and turn the lights on. But I realized that people would stop dancing and start crowding around him. So I decided to keep playing music until the doctor got there. But what should I play? It would be the last thing this man would ever hear, assuming he was still listening. ˜Last Dance' by Donna Summer would have been good, but I didn't have it. I hate to say it, but the last record he heard was Madonna's ˜Holiday.' It was just out and very popular, and I knew it would keep people dancing. But if it was the last record I ever heard, I'd be really pissed."
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My kid is way beyond Madonna books... last night in an effort to ignore his bedtime he kept calling me into his room with bogus excuses.. the last and best excuse was "mummy, mummy come here I have a PRESENT for YOU!" . I go in and there he was in his bed in the dark holding a small crumpled empty raisen box. I scold him and tell him enough already its bedtime when he gives me this fake look of shock and says "But Mummy this IS a PRESENT" I say "Luka is an empty box, its garbage!" he says channelling Warhol no doubt, "Mummy! Its an art project!!".
Classic!
The kids slick ... and he's only 4!
F ester!
Daddy, surely you didn't DJ this and not invite your favorite Madgie? Man, she's looking old.

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NEW YORK - JUNE 07: Television personality Matt Lauer and singer Madonna attend a party in celebration of Madonna's latest children's book "Lotsa De Casha" at Bergdorf Goodman June 7, 2005 in New York City. "Lotsa de Casha" is the last of five children's books by Madonna. A portion of the money raised from the evening's book sales will benefit UNICEF. (Photo by Frank Micelotta/Getty Images)

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P-U! What's that smell?

Madonna: The Fragrance

Madge on the verge of signing with Coty

NEW YORK: Tuesday, June 14, 2005

She may drink only Kabbalah water, but when it comes to her scent, Madonna seems to prefer the smell of herself, thank you very much. The Daily has learned that the Material Girl is close to signing a fragrance deal of her own, rumored to be with fragrance giant Coty Inc. The deal, according to a beauty executive familiar with the specifics terms, has Madonna being paid a cool $15 million to have her scent bottled. Both print and television spots, which will be filmed in her hometown of London, are included. Coty is a natural partner for Madonna; in the last few years, it has manufactured successful fragrances for the likes of Jennifer Lopez, Celine Dion, and Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, and it has also signed on other celebrity powerhouses like David and Victoria Beckham, Shania Twain, and Sarah Jessica Parker. And just shy of a month ago, Coty flexed its muscle further by buying Unilver's global prestige fragrance business for $800 million. The fragrance is still in the developmental phase, and the details have yet to be finalized. But don't be surprised if it features a thin, red string tied around the cap.

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MOMMIE DEAREST.......
Madonna is a worldwide pop icon, once notorious for her desire to shock.

But as she nears 50, she has become a puritanical parent who is a disciplinarian with her children, nine-year-old Lola and Rocco, four.

Madonna, married to film director Guy Ritchie, says she has banned television and punishes her daughter's messiness by confiscating her clothes.

"I'm a disciplinarian. Guy's the spoiler," she says in an interview with Harpers & Queen magazine.

"When Daddy gets home, they're going to get chocolate. I'm more practical; I worry about their teeth and make sure they're getting their schoolwork done. I'm very schedlotuled, I make lists."

The woman who made her name as a mass media idol, continues: "My kids don't watch TV. We have televisions but they're not hooked up to anything but movies.

"TV is trash. I was raised without it. We don't have magazines or newspapers in the house either."

Ritchie, who directed Lock, Stock And Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch, treats the children to pizza and bike rides. "Guy is into doing wild stuff outside, taking them out on bikes," she says.

"He's good cop, I'm bad cop. The kids watch movies every Sunday, so if they're naughty, they get their movie taken away. If they're a little naughty, then no stories before bed."

But 47- year- old Madonna is strictest of all about Lourdes's clothes.

"My daughter has a problem picking things up in her room, so if you leave your clothes on the floor, they're gone when you come home," she explains.

Bad behaviour is repaid by chores. "Lola has to earn all her clothes back by being tidy, making her bed, hanging up her clothes," she says.

As for the family diet: "It's whole grains, eating things by season, staying away from food that's been bioengineered in some way.

"[Our cook] prepares food like sushi or salmon. And vegetables. We don't eat any dairy here."

The singer also reveals how her social life is virtually non-existent. The daily routine means getting up at 7.30am, seeing the children off to school, a morning in the office, lunchtime exercising, then more work in the afternoon. Dinner is at 9.30pm, after Ritchie comes home.

"We eat late, we go to bed late, I get up early," she says. "I don't see a of my girlfriends. When you have a husband, two kids and a job, you don't go out that much." Madonna, who has a new single, Hung Up, out on 14 November, also talks about her love for London.

"I never thought I'd settle," she says. "I quite disliked the place for a while. When I was just starting out, the press was terrible to me. Then I met my husband. I realised that, if I didn't live here, I wouldn't get to see him very much. I feel freer here."

"¢ The full interview appears in the November issue of Harpers & Queen, on sale now.
i love truth or dare. MEANWHILE:

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON OCT 17, 2005 11:04:28 ET XXXXX

MADONNA WARNS: ALL WILL GO TO HELL IF DON'T TURN FROM WICKED BEHAVIOR; 'MOST PRIESTS ARE GAY'

**Exclusive Details**

The former Material Girl now believes "the beast is the modern world that we live in!"

"The material world. The physical world. The world of illusion, that we think is real. We live for it, we're enslaved by it. And it will ultimately be our undoing," Madonna explains in her new documentary film, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A SECRET.

In the movie, which will premiere at the Ziegfeld Theater in New York City on Tuesday, Madonna warns how people "are going to go to hell, if they don't turn from their wicked behavior."

The singer, who is also promoting the upcoming release of her new music CD, declares: "Most priests are gay."

"I refer to an entity called 'The Beast'. I feel I am describing the world that we live in right now. To me 'The Beast' is the modern world that we live in."

Developing...
Hey! Who told you that? My wife?
Yes, it's true I was watching "Truth Or Dare". I could only watch about 15 minutes of it though. I was laughing too hard. I LOVE her "Documentary Voice". She is just so funny to me. She's like George Bush, she is so transparent, I just can't believe everyone falls for her stunts. Over and Over again!
I know the way her mind works...
"People will take me seriously if there is a serious black and white documentary about me. So I'll make one".
(I remember when she was filming it. Everyone was freaked out because they had these mics on them all the time picking up EVERYTHING. We would be talking (dishing her) and then someone would remember the mic. Ooooops!)
And now she's spiritual.
Believe me, that's all part of the plan as well. "Get spiritual when I'm too old show my tits".
yes, and 'get back to dance music when people fail to embrace kabalah-infused lame ass songs.'

Now she's on TRL today. From ET:


Madonna's 'Secret' Home Videos

October 17, 2005

MADONNA is back Nov. 15 with Confessions on a Dance Floor, her first album of new material since her American Life CD hit in 2003, and viewers can get a preview of the Material Mom on the road with her kids in her new documentary, "I'm Going To Tell You A Secret."

Airing Friday, October 21 on MTV, "Secret" follows the performer onstage and off during her recent Re-Invention Tour. In the years since her first, highly successful documentary, "Truth or Dare," viewers get to see how Madonna's music -- and how she, as a person -- have evolved stylistically and spiritually. The film includes all the highs and lows of life on the road, from dancer auditions and rehearsals to Madonna's time spent with the people who inspire her work and feed her soul: her family and friends, artists, hubby GUY RITCHIE and children LOURDES and ROCCO.

Madonna's very first live appearance in support of the new disc is scheduled for today's "Total Request Live" on MTV, offering fans a first-listen to her hotly anticipated single "Hung Up." It will be also be her first promotional appearance since she injured herself in a horseback-riding accident around her birthday in August.

Watch ET to catch exclusive video of the Material Mom at work with her kids!
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London Sun calls new album 'masterpiece.' I'm excited.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2005480548,00.html

New album is Madge-ic

ANYONE who thought MADONNA might have abdicated as the Queen of Pop can kneel at her throne once more.

I'm the first journo IN THE WORLD to have heard her new album – and it is an absolute belter.

Have your say

Do you think Madonna is still the Queen of Pop?

Tell us what you think by e-mailing:
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Confessions On A Dance Floor wipes the, er, floor with her critically acclaimed CDs such as Ray Of Light. It is an hour of pure electronic dance/pop heaven.

Madonna says: "I want people to jump out of their seats. It's about having a good time straight through and non-stop."

And she's absolutely right about that. There are no gaps between tracks so listening feels like you are having a private DJ session at the Ministry Of Sound.

I can't find a weak track, and I'm confident the album will be hailed a masterpiece on its November 14 release.

Below is my track-by-track guide, with ratings out of ten.


Confessions On A Dance Floor
Track by track

HUNG UP: Featuring a sample from Abba's Gimme Gimme Gimme this is a massive floor filler and a clear No1 single.

While there's no way on earth a straight bloke could be seen dead dancing to this camp tune it will go down a storm when she performs it at London's G.A.Y. nightclub next month. 9

GET TOGETHER: Upbeat track which borrows the bass line from the Stardust dance classic Music Sounds Better With You. She sings, "Do you believe we can change the future?" 8

SORRY: One of the best tracks on the album and likely to be the second single. You'll recognise the infectious bass line on the chorus as it's a sample from The Jacksons' 1981 hit Can You Feel It.

The opening features Madonna saying "sorry" in lots of different languages. 10

FUTURE LOVERS: Madonna wrote this with Mirwais Ahmadzai, who produced her No1 album, Music.

It's heavy on synths and you can spot a sample from the Donna Summer/Moroder club anthem I Feel Love. 9

I LOVE NEW YORK: Banging dance tune with lyrics featuring a pop at George Bush and his home state. She sings: "If you don't like my attitude then you can just f off. Just go to Texas, that's where they play golf."

The chorus is: "Los Angeles is for those who sleep, Paris and London baby you can keep, No other city will make me dance like New York" 10

LET IT WILL BE: Oddly titled track uses the string opening from Papa Don't Preach played on a synth. The track is reminiscent of Ray Of Light.

An Eighties-sounding string of chords takes the track into the following number. 10

FORBIDDEN LOVE: This is Kraftwerk inspired and features computer generated, vocoder style vocals.

It sounds very Eighties and is slightly slower than the rest of the album (there are no ballads at all on the CD). 8

JUMP: Features classic Madonna vocals and is reminiscent of Into The Groove. She sings: "The only thing you can depend on is your family." 9

HOW HIGH: All about Madonna analysing and evaluating her fame and success. She sings: "It's funny I spent my whole life wanting to be talked about, Was it all worth it? I guess I deserve it, How high are the stakes?" 10
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Ok I love this song....as you know I am easily pleased when it comes to pop music but Hung Up is great....The video is very good too....I know it doesn't take a genius to figure out all her "inspiration" but the way she puts it all together is so spot on.....Besides Abba is there a bit of Divine in there too, Native Love?
Also, the tick-tock at the begining is very Gwen Steph, what you waiting for and the bit in the vid where she is walking down the dark street in boots is such a rip off of Kylie's last video.....anyway, this song makes me want to go out.
Yeah, I have to agree with you (for once) Jimmy Scouse. It's good. It makes me want to go out too. And I'm out all the time!! I playe it twice last night (but then again I was DJing from 10PM to 7AM).
I just did this interview for HX about Esther. I know a lot of the vitriol will be edited out so I'll post the interview in its entirity here.
I completely acknowledge her genius in entertaining the masses, but!...ever since she went and got that first pseudo-Brit accent, I haven't been able to deal with her. She is so very affected and meretricious, all the while talking (out of her stiff chin) about how sincere her life is. This "getting religion" madness is intolerable and insulting to the Kabbalah and those who follow it (The Kabbalist seeks two things: an union with God while maintaining a social, family, and communal life within the framework of TRADITIONAL JUDAISM). While I do not profess to subscribe to any particular religion, I respect those who peacefully (and without hate) do, and gag at Shit-Bag's sacrilege. Cultural icon/intellectual moron.

You know what? I'm so fucking OVER Madonna. Over it!
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Sooo glad to hear you say that B!

I tend to not get involved in any discussions about Madge, because it brings out the worst side of me. Well, one of my bad sides anyway. But... let me just say I have always loathed her. And my revulsion of her just keeps growing as the years pass. I find that pretty amazing, actually. But people will keep going on about her. Well, please allow me to go on about her for once...

Sure, her story is Downtown club goer's rags-to-riches story. And it should provide inspiration to all of us for that fact alone. Perhaps the reason that she, is at heart, a morally bankrupt senseless bitch, might have something to do with the reason she leaves me so ininspired by her rise to fame and glory.

Sure, she's made some really "clever" career moves. Perhaps the reason for this is that she has continued to employ very "clever" managers, publicists, and other handlers to do the real work for her. Maybe a few of the ideas actually come from her, too. I really cannot say for sure, but from what I remember of the child, I might venture to guess that her contributions were slim indeed. I would say that she has been very lucky. Perhaps she has a pact with Mestophiles, or the Skull and Bones club at Yale, to insure that her luck doesn't run out in that regard.

Sure, some of her songs are catchy, or well-produced, or deal with controversial or obscure subject matter. She has, it is said, made a very fringe concept like vogueing a household word in this country. Sure she has.

Regarding her so-called muse...
This country is a nation of liars and thieves. Presidents and priests blatently lie to our faces, and then put their hired spin doctors to work. College students and newspaper reporters routinely lift entire passages from books without bothering to credit their sources. Cooking and decorating TV stars consistently steal everyone else's recipes and ideas and manage to parlay them into multi-million dollar businesses. Songwriters steal right and left, and, as long as it's under four measures, that's cool. And the more people you steal from as you craft a single song, even cooler, because it obscures all that messy tell-tale evidence.

We are now living in the ultimate post-postmodern age, regurgitating third-hand vomit from spewers who cannot even be bothered to find out who'd ingested the original meal. Relishing the fact that, by the time it's finally come up from the last gut, it's gotten more and more watered down, and therefore more acceptable somehow. And why bother to give your sources any credit anyway? Nobody really cares about that shit, right? Right.

Yes, America is a country where originality is scorned and reviled and starved. Impostors and plagiarists are rewarded and honored. And, though both our nation and our time are not unique in this pursuit, we have speeded up, streamlined and nationalized this dishonesty in such a remarkably efficient manner that we have come to resemble a cultural Nazi Germany. With the corporations that relentlessly market our "popular" culture worldwide, as cruelly soulless as that country's human extermination machinery.

I say good for Madonna. Keep on producing those "songs" and "concepts". Get richer, girl. You really owe it to yourself. And to your fans.

There. I've "gone on" (and on) about Madonna... finally.

Oh, one more thing...

As far as Madonna's new-found "religion" goes... we really shouldn't deride it. It seems to be as real and as viable for her... as much as the American brand of right-of-center Christianity is for most Americans.

And me, I'd much rather be a Jew than a Scientologist any day!
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Oh, Hatches, I concur about the scientology thing, and religion in general. It's just that she's soooooo bizarro-world Christian (i.e.- spouting the same kind of thing about her new religion that she so hates about her old one).

I always thought religion was a private, intimate affair (even the Bible has anecdotes about the pompus braying fool and the pious quiet fellow). Even my right-wing parents refuse to go to church for all the "christians" there. For M to spout off about the religious Right using another "better religion" is just so telling of her true self - she's either brilliantly MARKETING her new religion or she's a fucking moron. Just trying to top dried crap with runny shite, so to speak.

On top of all her spewing hate of the American politico-culture sin machine, her piss has POWERED the tank since she started.

I used to live when I heard her mouth off to the "man". Now, she's so loud and stupid it makes me tired.

Off with her head!

OK, now I'm done.
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Work Hatches!
You got it right, well almost. She really does come up with her career moves herself. Of course she has a lot of help from hairdressers and stylists but the general direction always comes from her. At that she is brilliant.

We always have to remember, Esther could NEVER have happened in another time period. Today, as you said Hatch, "Impostors and plagiarists are rewarded and honored". Just like George Bush, she is "the now". When Carl Rove looked at George Bush he said, "that is someone I can make president". (something like that) And he was right! He did. Millions of people saw through it but a lot more did not. She has always been like that for me. When I heard people say how great she was I was always like, "Are you kidding me?" But she just got bigger and bigger! Her, George Bush, the fall of New York, it's all the same thing for me. Now I know Jimmy Scouse is saying, "Oh please, lighten up Daddy. She's just a bloomin' Pop Star!" But for me... it's personal.

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I guess this is a good time to post my little HX interview (in full). It comes out this Friday.

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HX: What was your connection with her back in the day?

JD: Back in 1982 I was DJing at Danceteria and Madonna was working in the coatcheck. Mark Kamins was a producer who signed (and produced) both of us.

HX: What did you think of her back then?

JD: She was always brilliant at coming up with these demonic hooks that drove you crazy, like "dance and sing get up and do your thing". I thought she must have sold her soul to the devil because I watched as evil hook after evil hook infected the planet. It was interesting to me though that none of her songs ever seemed to stick in a way that say Bob Dylan's or The Beatles' had. Her songs are huge but then they are gone in a way that say Bob Marley's or The Rolling Stones' will be around forever. I'm not trying to be funny either, I think she is as major as they are. She is definitely the "signpost" to her generation. Paris Hilton, Britney Spears and every vacant NYU student on a cell phone, they are all her spawn.

HX: What do you think of her now?

JD: The whole Kabbalah stuff is fascinating. She just gets better and better as we near the end.

HX: What do you think of her new single and album?

JD: When I first heard the new stuff I thought "Damn! The bitch has done it again". It was like I went to bed with Satan whispering in my ear "time goes by, so slowly... time goes by, so slowly". And yes, I'm playing it. Disco is back!

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Thanks for posting the interview daddy, your so nice, even when you are not!!
Ok, Let me state for the record...I have never liked Madonna. As a teenager growing up in th eighties I never thought she was a look, never liked her music...I would like to think it was an innate sense that told me she was a phoney with no real depth... but maybe it was just looking around and seeing artists/friends who where doing/wearing a lot better.....anway, I do fess up to the fact that in earlier in this thread I posted to annoy Anna Nicole.....even my last post was to see if she would bite...she did a little!
But I do like Hung Up.........
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Don't worry Bobby, she is doomed.

RABBIS CRITICISE NEW MADONNA SONG

JERUSALEM, Oct. 9, 2005

(AP) A song on Madonna's upcoming album dedicated to a Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from other rabbis, the Israeli Maariv daily reported Sunday.

The album, "Confessions on a Dance Floor," is to be released on Nov. 15 and features a track entitled "Isaac" about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th century Jewish mystic and Kabbalah scholar.

Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern town of Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the inclusion of the song about Luria on the album as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name.

Rabbi Rafael Cohen, head of a seminary named after Luria, suggested Madonna's actions could lead to divine retribution.

"Jewish law forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act is just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize for her because of the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens," Cohen told the newspaper.

Another rabbi called for Madonna to be thrown out of the community.

"Such a woman brings great sin on kabbalah," Rabbi Israel Deri told Maariv. "I hope that we will have the strength to prevent her from bringing sin upon the holiness of the rabbi (Yitzhak Luria)."

Madonna spokeswoman Liz Rosenberg didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment Sunday.

The singer and actress was raised a Roman Catholic but has become a follower of Kabbalah in recent years and adopted the Hebrew name Esther. She made a much publicized visit to Israel in 2004, when she visited many sites important to Kabbalah, but didn't travel to Luria's grave.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/09/entertainment/main927942.shtml
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Jimmy, I know you were just winding up our Lil' Anna Nicole. I know you're not a big fan really.

And Stan,
"Divine Retribution"...
Did they say when?

Poor Liz Rosenberg (I like her), she's had to put up with a lot. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to read HER book!!!! But you know she will never get to write it. Too bad.
The Kab thing is such a flimsy bow to the Brit popstar cum Messiah pose the Beattles started with thier whole pilgrimage to the Maharishi. Co-opting some little understood spiritual bent into just another part of the personality/brand.

Religious devotion as mink coat.

I said it once, I'll say it again, she's a housewife from Michigan. And what Daddy so acutely points out is, she worked popmusic by sticking to throw-away formula. I think her main talent is just running hard.

I always liked Daddy's anecdote about some suit in a club coming up to flip him a hundred dollar bill to take her OFF the wheels.

For a while she was an industry to herself and you have to give some credit to hard work for that, though.
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What is with all this worship of hard work? Who bloodie cares?
Lazy bums who become successful are alot more interesting.
It's more irritating and mysterious!
Any egomaniac can obsess over themselves and promote their "thimbleful" ad nauseam. Can you spell OCD.

As for "when", Daddy, Divine Retribution is due, I looked into my crystal ball and the Astral Rabbis were saying somewhere... right before Hannukah... or if the currents aren't right then, definitely about the time Menopause marches in.

By then she and Anne Rice will have teamed up, together with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to save our collective rotten souls with a symphonic blast of religious iconography.

Or rather we'll be compelled to BUY that salvation...

Find me completely missing it on velvet cushions mysteriously doing absolutely nothin' in The Remote Location. Which is not Michigan.
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I love sharon osbourne!! Todays Daily Mirror in UK

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16340615%26met...madge-name_page.html

"One day you're in f***ing gun gear, then you're in horsing gear, then you dress like a f***ing dyke, then you dress like a hooker, then you're in a flowery dress reading kids' poetry looking like a f***ing librarian - then you're back looking like an old hooker again."

Her rant continued: "For f**k's sake, who are you? At that age, you should know who you are, what bloody religion you are and what you represent.

"You can't be all things to everyone and true to yourself. I don't care who you are." Mocking Madonna's country house image and lesbian kiss with Britney Spears in a pop video, Sharon spat: "You can't one day be in Horse And Hound and the next in Dyke Weekly."
Couldn't have said it better meself!
Rule on Sharon Obourne!
Thanks for that Anna Nicole.

And Stan, we should take this into THe Anne Rice Topic. I read the first few pages, it's good. Jesus is seven and has just killed the neighborhood bully with a blink of his eye. (Of course he brings him back to life when his parents complain) It's sort of like Jesus as a superhero (the new Lestat).
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Anna that article is a riot.
Of course she is wrong, we CAN be all things, a librarian, a hooker, etc. the problem is "image"... Read down in that article and Sharon admits she spent 3 million pounds on plastic surgery? So who's obsessed?

And now of course the astral Rabbis are after Madge. The worst punishment would be if they froze her in time. So she could not change her hairstyle, or look, or the outfit she was wearing. Ever again. Not ever.
Osborne formerly bragged she'd spent three hundred thousand on wonderdoctors, not three million. I suppose her estimate of her own value has gone up. Being in the little puppet show sure is a great ticket to selfdelusionland. Woof woof!

Daddy, I thought M. B. Raitt was Jesus. But I'm happy to play the part, at least for S'tan. Maybe Madonna can be Donald Trump and Osborne can play Howard Cosell, while Ankou steps in as Charleton Heston and all the housewives of Michigan stop by S'tan's for some rattlesnake.

Or am I getting my hero worship confused with knowing something?

Although I don't know what a soul is, let alone a wretched one, and there certainly are many more ways than one to 'BUY' something, I do know that a person is never more in something than when they are out.
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Since I have not heard the entire album, I cannot vouch that it is all endless and upbeat dance music (which I could use right about now, given,,,uh, well, everything), but I have been having fun with "Hung Up." Kylie is wonderful, I love her, but when "Fever" came out my first reaction was, thank the gods, some old school Madonna sound, mixed with old school disco, so I guess madge is backtracking, whatever. It's odd that she inspires so much vitriol as well as interest, hell, I would never waste so much typing on Britney since I rather dislike her, so why bother. Anyway, I see Kate Bush's Aeriel has gotten raves in the UK, can't wait and am thinking of picking up the new Fiona Apple as well.
Instead of wasting your time on Madonna, you should hear Cyndi Lauper's new cd 'The Body Acoustic' It's a great acoustic cd that she sings along with a few guest stars, Ani Difranco, Sarah Mclaclan, Shaggy and Vivien Green. (some others help out too) It's a great cd for CYndi to showcase her voice. Why waste your time with a cd that is so heavily promoted and mass marketed such as Madonnas new cd. If Madonna's new cd is so great why is the record company spending 5 million to heavily promoted it. I always thought music should be word of mouth or played on the radio for new promotion, I hate seeing all these ads for new cds.
Cyndi is also touring with Sandra Bernhard in Nov and December. It's going to be a great tour, they colaborate on a few duets also. Forget Madonna, find the real talent!
Whoa, thanks Kelly. Cyndi is a big talent that's for sure. And Vivian Green!!!! That sounds great, I love her voice.

Even though Esther is way more fun to bitch about...
Ok, I'll tell you some poop about Cyndi.
Before she became famous she was my downstairs neighbor in this loft on West 30th Street (Actually, in the same building that "DOWNTIME" is in. In other words, the same building that you can find seven stumbling around most Saturday nights!)
Anyway, she had this band called "Blue Angel". It was this sort of "New Jersey Hair Band" as I remember them.
THEY DROVE EVERYONE CRAZY!!!!!
They rehersed the same 12 songs OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER!
We we're like, "ENOUGH ALREADY! If you don't know the F***ing songs by now you NEVER will.
I hated them.
Of course they (and especially Cyndi) were very talented and eventually got signed. That's why I really hated them. The band I was in was God awful.
But eventually even I got signed to Atlantic and had to take singing lessons. (Because I was still was God awful. The only person who thought I could sing was Hattie Hathaway. And SHE was in a band called "3 TEENS KILL 4" so what does THAT say?)
Anyway, Of course the star student and pride and joy of my singing teacher was none other than Cyndi! It was "Cyndi this and Cyndi that and the beautiful clarity of Cyndi's notes and Cyndi's incredible range. (Mine wasn't even one octave).
I hated her.
So a couple of years later, my singing career over, I decided to get a brand new "hair-do" by the fiercest hairdresser this side of Bobby Miller... Danilo. He said, "Come in Daddy, I want to put these red and blue streaks in your hair". I was so excited. Then I walked in and THERE WAS CYNDI!!! Looking in the mirror and saying "Danilo, I lOVE these red and blue streaks you put in my hair. Thanks Hon".
I hated her.
OK, there you have it.
The EVIL Cyndi Lauper.
See, it's not just Esther.


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Hey Daddy, I don't stumble around Downtime. I just bump into things. Mostly just the gorgeous things, but, uh, it is kinda dark in there. Messy Bonnie Raitt always straightens me out regarding my taste for bumpees though.

That photo of Cyndi shows her early physical talent that was never fully realized later on in her world wrestling federation days. But what I really want to know is, who would win in a fight between Cyndi and Tama Janowitz?
Moonshadow!!!!
You're killing me.
Now that was a hot club!
I have a couple of "Dancefloor Confessions" of my own now that I remember Moonshadow.
Didn't it used to open at like 11AM?
(Or was that just when I got there?)
Who knows.

Anyway, I like the album.
I'm playing it.
The Chus & Ceballos re-mix of "Hung Up" is muy caliente.
no surprise that i love it, too, but what is so amazing to me is *how much* of it i like. there's not another madonna album that's solid as this straight thru (excepting 'isaac' on this one, which is awful). the other 11 songs are so so good. not even her first album or ray of light matches it, imo. looks like others agree:

Madonna's new album rules pop charts
Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:52 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Venerable pop icon Madonna danced to the top of the U.S. pop album charts for the sixth time in her career on Wednesday with her third consecutive No. 1 release, "Confessions on a Dance Floor."

Her Warner Bros. disc sold nearly 350,000 copies in the week ended November 20, according to Nielsen SoundScan, and ranks as her third-largest sales week in the tracking firm's 14-year history.

The album and its single "Hung Up" also are No. 1 on the respective British charts. The single is in the top-10 of the U.S. charts.

First-week U.S. sales for "Confessions" fell far short of those for Madonna's 2000 album "Music," which opened at No. 1 with 420,000 copies, but handily eclipsed those of her most recent previous release, "American Life," which started off with 241,000 copies in 2003 and quickly fizzled.
p.s. Daddy, WORSHIP your cyndi dish. she was my main girl way back when. as a sixth grader i wanted to be her for halloween and had my bedroom walls all plastered with cut outs of her from 16 Magazine and Tiger Beat. It was such a thrill one day that year to discover a blue angel album in the discount bin of my local record shop-- it was such a rarity and i had looked far and wide for so long, obsessed; it's got some great music on it, which you must have heard a gazillion times in rehearsal ('i had a love' is one of my all-time favorite cyndi songs). any other bits to share? though she deserves her own topic, it's only right that some of ma-doo-doo's space be taken up by cyndi. if there had been no madge replacing the popularity of sheer talent with some talent, sex, and marketing, i think cyndi's star would have shined a little brighter and bigger.

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