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The former Material Girl now believes "the beast is the modern world that we live in!"

"The material world. The physical world. The world of illusion, that we think is real. We live for it, we're enslaved by it. And it will ultimately be our undoing," Madonna explains in her new documentary film, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A SECRET.

In the movie, which will premiere at the Ziegfeld Theater in New York City on Tuesday, Madonna warns how people "are going to go to hell, if they don't turn from their wicked behavior."

The singer, who is also promoting the upcoming release of her new music CD, declares: "Most priests are gay."

"I refer to an entity called 'The Beast'. I feel I am describing the world that we live in right now. To me 'The Beast' is the modern world that we live in."

Hey! Who told you that? My wife?
Yes, it's true I was watching "Truth Or Dare". I could only watch about 15 minutes of it though. I was laughing too hard. I LOVE her "Documentary Voice". She is just so funny to me. She's like George Bush, she is so transparent, I just can't believe everyone falls for her stunts. Over and Over again!
I know the way her mind works...
"People will take me seriously if there is a serious black and white documentary about me. So I'll make one".
(I remember when she was filming it. Everyone was freaked out because they had these mics on them all the time picking up EVERYTHING. We would be talking (dishing her) and then someone would remember the mic. Ooooops!)
And now she's spiritual.
Believe me, that's all part of the plan as well. "Get spiritual when I'm too old show my tits".
yes, and 'get back to dance music when people fail to embrace kabalah-infused lame ass songs.'

Now she's on TRL today. From ET:

Madonna's 'Secret' Home Videos

October 17, 2005

MADONNA is back Nov. 15 with Confessions on a Dance Floor, her first album of new material since her American Life CD hit in 2003, and viewers can get a preview of the Material Mom on the road with her kids in her new documentary, "I'm Going To Tell You A Secret."

Airing Friday, October 21 on MTV, "Secret" follows the performer onstage and off during her recent Re-Invention Tour. In the years since her first, highly successful documentary, "Truth or Dare," viewers get to see how Madonna's music -- and how she, as a person -- have evolved stylistically and spiritually. The film includes all the highs and lows of life on the road, from dancer auditions and rehearsals to Madonna's time spent with the people who inspire her work and feed her soul: her family and friends, artists, hubby GUY RITCHIE and children LOURDES and ROCCO.

Madonna's very first live appearance in support of the new disc is scheduled for today's "Total Request Live" on MTV, offering fans a first-listen to her hotly anticipated single "Hung Up." It will be also be her first promotional appearance since she injured herself in a horseback-riding accident around her birthday in August.

Watch ET to catch exclusive video of the Material Mom at work with her kids!
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London Sun calls new album 'masterpiece.' I'm excited.,,4-2005480548,00.html

New album is Madge-ic

ANYONE who thought MADONNA might have abdicated as the Queen of Pop can kneel at her throne once more.

I'm the first journo IN THE WORLD to have heard her new album – and it is an absolute belter.

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Confessions On A Dance Floor wipes the, er, floor with her critically acclaimed CDs such as Ray Of Light. It is an hour of pure electronic dance/pop heaven.

Madonna says: "I want people to jump out of their seats. It's about having a good time straight through and non-stop."

And she's absolutely right about that. There are no gaps between tracks so listening feels like you are having a private DJ session at the Ministry Of Sound.

I can't find a weak track, and I'm confident the album will be hailed a masterpiece on its November 14 release.

Below is my track-by-track guide, with ratings out of ten.

Confessions On A Dance Floor
Track by track

HUNG UP: Featuring a sample from Abba's Gimme Gimme Gimme this is a massive floor filler and a clear No1 single.

While there's no way on earth a straight bloke could be seen dead dancing to this camp tune it will go down a storm when she performs it at London's G.A.Y. nightclub next month. 9

GET TOGETHER: Upbeat track which borrows the bass line from the Stardust dance classic Music Sounds Better With You. She sings, "Do you believe we can change the future?" 8

SORRY: One of the best tracks on the album and likely to be the second single. You'll recognise the infectious bass line on the chorus as it's a sample from The Jacksons' 1981 hit Can You Feel It.

The opening features Madonna saying "sorry" in lots of different languages. 10

FUTURE LOVERS: Madonna wrote this with Mirwais Ahmadzai, who produced her No1 album, Music.

It's heavy on synths and you can spot a sample from the Donna Summer/Moroder club anthem I Feel Love. 9

I LOVE NEW YORK: Banging dance tune with lyrics featuring a pop at George Bush and his home state. She sings: "If you don't like my attitude then you can just f off. Just go to Texas, that's where they play golf."

The chorus is: "Los Angeles is for those who sleep, Paris and London baby you can keep, No other city will make me dance like New York" 10

LET IT WILL BE: Oddly titled track uses the string opening from Papa Don't Preach played on a synth. The track is reminiscent of Ray Of Light.

An Eighties-sounding string of chords takes the track into the following number. 10

FORBIDDEN LOVE: This is Kraftwerk inspired and features computer generated, vocoder style vocals.

It sounds very Eighties and is slightly slower than the rest of the album (there are no ballads at all on the CD). 8

JUMP: Features classic Madonna vocals and is reminiscent of Into The Groove. She sings: "The only thing you can depend on is your family." 9

HOW HIGH: All about Madonna analysing and evaluating her fame and success. She sings: "It's funny I spent my whole life wanting to be talked about, Was it all worth it? I guess I deserve it, How high are the stakes?" 10
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Ok I love this you know I am easily pleased when it comes to pop music but Hung Up is great....The video is very good too....I know it doesn't take a genius to figure out all her "inspiration" but the way she puts it all together is so spot on.....Besides Abba is there a bit of Divine in there too, Native Love?
Also, the tick-tock at the begining is very Gwen Steph, what you waiting for and the bit in the vid where she is walking down the dark street in boots is such a rip off of Kylie's last video.....anyway, this song makes me want to go out.
Yeah, I have to agree with you (for once) Jimmy Scouse. It's good. It makes me want to go out too. And I'm out all the time!! I playe it twice last night (but then again I was DJing from 10PM to 7AM).
I just did this interview for HX about Esther. I know a lot of the vitriol will be edited out so I'll post the interview in its entirity here.
I completely acknowledge her genius in entertaining the masses, but!...ever since she went and got that first pseudo-Brit accent, I haven't been able to deal with her. She is so very affected and meretricious, all the while talking (out of her stiff chin) about how sincere her life is. This "getting religion" madness is intolerable and insulting to the Kabbalah and those who follow it (The Kabbalist seeks two things: an union with God while maintaining a social, family, and communal life within the framework of TRADITIONAL JUDAISM). While I do not profess to subscribe to any particular religion, I respect those who peacefully (and without hate) do, and gag at Shit-Bag's sacrilege. Cultural icon/intellectual moron.

You know what? I'm so fucking OVER Madonna. Over it!
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Sooo glad to hear you say that B!

I tend to not get involved in any discussions about Madge, because it brings out the worst side of me. Well, one of my bad sides anyway. But... let me just say I have always loathed her. And my revulsion of her just keeps growing as the years pass. I find that pretty amazing, actually. But people will keep going on about her. Well, please allow me to go on about her for once...

Sure, her story is Downtown club goer's rags-to-riches story. And it should provide inspiration to all of us for that fact alone. Perhaps the reason that she, is at heart, a morally bankrupt senseless bitch, might have something to do with the reason she leaves me so ininspired by her rise to fame and glory.

Sure, she's made some really "clever" career moves. Perhaps the reason for this is that she has continued to employ very "clever" managers, publicists, and other handlers to do the real work for her. Maybe a few of the ideas actually come from her, too. I really cannot say for sure, but from what I remember of the child, I might venture to guess that her contributions were slim indeed. I would say that she has been very lucky. Perhaps she has a pact with Mestophiles, or the Skull and Bones club at Yale, to insure that her luck doesn't run out in that regard.

Sure, some of her songs are catchy, or well-produced, or deal with controversial or obscure subject matter. She has, it is said, made a very fringe concept like vogueing a household word in this country. Sure she has.

Regarding her so-called muse...
This country is a nation of liars and thieves. Presidents and priests blatently lie to our faces, and then put their hired spin doctors to work. College students and newspaper reporters routinely lift entire passages from books without bothering to credit their sources. Cooking and decorating TV stars consistently steal everyone else's recipes and ideas and manage to parlay them into multi-million dollar businesses. Songwriters steal right and left, and, as long as it's under four measures, that's cool. And the more people you steal from as you craft a single song, even cooler, because it obscures all that messy tell-tale evidence.

We are now living in the ultimate post-postmodern age, regurgitating third-hand vomit from spewers who cannot even be bothered to find out who'd ingested the original meal. Relishing the fact that, by the time it's finally come up from the last gut, it's gotten more and more watered down, and therefore more acceptable somehow. And why bother to give your sources any credit anyway? Nobody really cares about that shit, right? Right.

Yes, America is a country where originality is scorned and reviled and starved. Impostors and plagiarists are rewarded and honored. And, though both our nation and our time are not unique in this pursuit, we have speeded up, streamlined and nationalized this dishonesty in such a remarkably efficient manner that we have come to resemble a cultural Nazi Germany. With the corporations that relentlessly market our "popular" culture worldwide, as cruelly soulless as that country's human extermination machinery.

I say good for Madonna. Keep on producing those "songs" and "concepts". Get richer, girl. You really owe it to yourself. And to your fans.

There. I've "gone on" (and on) about Madonna... finally.

Oh, one more thing...

As far as Madonna's new-found "religion" goes... we really shouldn't deride it. It seems to be as real and as viable for her... as much as the American brand of right-of-center Christianity is for most Americans.

And me, I'd much rather be a Jew than a Scientologist any day!
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Oh, Hatches, I concur about the scientology thing, and religion in general. It's just that she's soooooo bizarro-world Christian (i.e.- spouting the same kind of thing about her new religion that she so hates about her old one).

I always thought religion was a private, intimate affair (even the Bible has anecdotes about the pompus braying fool and the pious quiet fellow). Even my right-wing parents refuse to go to church for all the "christians" there. For M to spout off about the religious Right using another "better religion" is just so telling of her true self - she's either brilliantly MARKETING her new religion or she's a fucking moron. Just trying to top dried crap with runny shite, so to speak.

On top of all her spewing hate of the American politico-culture sin machine, her piss has POWERED the tank since she started.

I used to live when I heard her mouth off to the "man". Now, she's so loud and stupid it makes me tired.

Off with her head!

OK, now I'm done.
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Work Hatches!
You got it right, well almost. She really does come up with her career moves herself. Of course she has a lot of help from hairdressers and stylists but the general direction always comes from her. At that she is brilliant.

We always have to remember, Esther could NEVER have happened in another time period. Today, as you said Hatch, "Impostors and plagiarists are rewarded and honored". Just like George Bush, she is "the now". When Carl Rove looked at George Bush he said, "that is someone I can make president". (something like that) And he was right! He did. Millions of people saw through it but a lot more did not. She has always been like that for me. When I heard people say how great she was I was always like, "Are you kidding me?" But she just got bigger and bigger! Her, George Bush, the fall of New York, it's all the same thing for me. Now I know Jimmy Scouse is saying, "Oh please, lighten up Daddy. She's just a bloomin' Pop Star!" But for me... it's personal.


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I guess this is a good time to post my little HX interview (in full). It comes out this Friday.

HX: What was your connection with her back in the day?

JD: Back in 1982 I was DJing at Danceteria and Madonna was working in the coatcheck. Mark Kamins was a producer who signed (and produced) both of us.

HX: What did you think of her back then?

JD: She was always brilliant at coming up with these demonic hooks that drove you crazy, like "dance and sing get up and do your thing". I thought she must have sold her soul to the devil because I watched as evil hook after evil hook infected the planet. It was interesting to me though that none of her songs ever seemed to stick in a way that say Bob Dylan's or The Beatles' had. Her songs are huge but then they are gone in a way that say Bob Marley's or The Rolling Stones' will be around forever. I'm not trying to be funny either, I think she is as major as they are. She is definitely the "signpost" to her generation. Paris Hilton, Britney Spears and every vacant NYU student on a cell phone, they are all her spawn.

HX: What do you think of her now?

JD: The whole Kabbalah stuff is fascinating. She just gets better and better as we near the end.

HX: What do you think of her new single and album?

JD: When I first heard the new stuff I thought "Damn! The bitch has done it again". It was like I went to bed with Satan whispering in my ear "time goes by, so slowly... time goes by, so slowly". And yes, I'm playing it. Disco is back!


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Thanks for posting the interview daddy, your so nice, even when you are not!!
Ok, Let me state for the record...I have never liked Madonna. As a teenager growing up in th eighties I never thought she was a look, never liked her music...I would like to think it was an innate sense that told me she was a phoney with no real depth... but maybe it was just looking around and seeing artists/friends who where doing/wearing a lot better.....anway, I do fess up to the fact that in earlier in this thread I posted to annoy Anna Nicole.....even my last post was to see if she would bite...she did a little!
But I do like Hung Up.........
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Don't worry Bobby, she is doomed.


JERUSALEM, Oct. 9, 2005

(AP) A song on Madonna's upcoming album dedicated to a Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from other rabbis, the Israeli Maariv daily reported Sunday.

The album, "Confessions on a Dance Floor," is to be released on Nov. 15 and features a track entitled "Isaac" about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th century Jewish mystic and Kabbalah scholar.

Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern town of Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the inclusion of the song about Luria on the album as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name.

Rabbi Rafael Cohen, head of a seminary named after Luria, suggested Madonna's actions could lead to divine retribution.

"Jewish law forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act is just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize for her because of the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens," Cohen told the newspaper.

Another rabbi called for Madonna to be thrown out of the community.

"Such a woman brings great sin on kabbalah," Rabbi Israel Deri told Maariv. "I hope that we will have the strength to prevent her from bringing sin upon the holiness of the rabbi (Yitzhak Luria)."

Madonna spokeswoman Liz Rosenberg didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment Sunday.

The singer and actress was raised a Roman Catholic but has become a follower of Kabbalah in recent years and adopted the Hebrew name Esther. She made a much publicized visit to Israel in 2004, when she visited many sites important to Kabbalah, but didn't travel to Luria's grave.
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Jimmy, I know you were just winding up our Lil' Anna Nicole. I know you're not a big fan really.

And Stan,
"Divine Retribution"...
Did they say when?

Poor Liz Rosenberg (I like her), she's had to put up with a lot. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to read HER book!!!! But you know she will never get to write it. Too bad.
The Kab thing is such a flimsy bow to the Brit popstar cum Messiah pose the Beattles started with thier whole pilgrimage to the Maharishi. Co-opting some little understood spiritual bent into just another part of the personality/brand.

Religious devotion as mink coat.

I said it once, I'll say it again, she's a housewife from Michigan. And what Daddy so acutely points out is, she worked popmusic by sticking to throw-away formula. I think her main talent is just running hard.

I always liked Daddy's anecdote about some suit in a club coming up to flip him a hundred dollar bill to take her OFF the wheels.

For a while she was an industry to herself and you have to give some credit to hard work for that, though.
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What is with all this worship of hard work? Who bloodie cares?
Lazy bums who become successful are alot more interesting.
It's more irritating and mysterious!
Any egomaniac can obsess over themselves and promote their "thimbleful" ad nauseam. Can you spell OCD.

As for "when", Daddy, Divine Retribution is due, I looked into my crystal ball and the Astral Rabbis were saying somewhere... right before Hannukah... or if the currents aren't right then, definitely about the time Menopause marches in.

By then she and Anne Rice will have teamed up, together with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to save our collective rotten souls with a symphonic blast of religious iconography.

Or rather we'll be compelled to BUY that salvation...

Find me completely missing it on velvet cushions mysteriously doing absolutely nothin' in The Remote Location. Which is not Michigan.
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I love sharon osbourne!! Todays Daily Mirror in UK

"One day you're in f***ing gun gear, then you're in horsing gear, then you dress like a f***ing dyke, then you dress like a hooker, then you're in a flowery dress reading kids' poetry looking like a f***ing librarian - then you're back looking like an old hooker again."

Her rant continued: "For f**k's sake, who are you? At that age, you should know who you are, what bloody religion you are and what you represent.

"You can't be all things to everyone and true to yourself. I don't care who you are." Mocking Madonna's country house image and lesbian kiss with Britney Spears in a pop video, Sharon spat: "You can't one day be in Horse And Hound and the next in Dyke Weekly."
Couldn't have said it better meself!
Rule on Sharon Obourne!
Thanks for that Anna Nicole.

And Stan, we should take this into THe Anne Rice Topic. I read the first few pages, it's good. Jesus is seven and has just killed the neighborhood bully with a blink of his eye. (Of course he brings him back to life when his parents complain) It's sort of like Jesus as a superhero (the new Lestat).
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Anna that article is a riot.
Of course she is wrong, we CAN be all things, a librarian, a hooker, etc. the problem is "image"... Read down in that article and Sharon admits she spent 3 million pounds on plastic surgery? So who's obsessed?

And now of course the astral Rabbis are after Madge. The worst punishment would be if they froze her in time. So she could not change her hairstyle, or look, or the outfit she was wearing. Ever again. Not ever.

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